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welcome details from the rabbit-hole I'm

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your host Nick West my guest today is

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Jason burma's Jason Burma's is a

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documentary film producer

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perhaps most well known for his

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involvement with loose change but he

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also has several other documentaries

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such as shade and invisible Empire Jason

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welcome to tales from the rabbit hole

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well thank you so much for having me I

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know we've been back and forth for years

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via Twitter and other methods but we've

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never really talked in person so I

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thought this was a nice little

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opportunity I've seen your stuff on

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Rogen I've been to metabolic you know

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there are certain things I absolutely

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agree with you on and I think it's gonna

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be an interesting conversation yeah yeah

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I've been interested I've been following

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you for a long time and we we've kind of

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crossed paths on a variety of things

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like everything from 9/11 to to

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chemtrails sure over the years and you

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know other other various you know things

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that I'm interested in and your interest

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is in but we're kind of coming at it

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from different sides of the topic you're

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more of a I guess a conspiracy theorist

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and I'm more of a debunk yeah which both

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but just have kind of negative

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connotations on both sides but do you

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describe yourself as a conspiracy

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theorist or do you have opinion that's

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uh I know that's the big thing but for

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me and as like conspiracy theorist I

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guess I feel like I'd have to be putting

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more out there or you know you know

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there's plenty I mean we could talk I'm

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sure we will we'll talk about to the

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stars Academy UFO is for instance that

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was something that was you know when I

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was a kid I got interested in and you

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know with everything that was out there

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you know the alien autopsy Fox was

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pushing it you know there's like 12

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channels at the time I remember I had

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the time-life series and one of the

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things that put me off on that time-life

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series was that a lot of it had to do

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with paranormal right so I get like

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ghost ones and the psychic ones etc etc

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and I was more interested in you know

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seeing pictures of maybe craft that I

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hadn't seen before

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and the big push then were aliens but

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you know through my research over the

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last 20 plus years there's very little

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if any evidence of extraterrestrial life

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there's plenty of evidence for you know

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black craft in other words black budget

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vehicles that aren't shared with the

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public for some time and trying to get

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there and I thought that Auntie

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Jacobson's book I don't know if you read

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area 51 yet but it's it's a must read

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she did Rogen's podcast as well but she

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has two other books and they're DARPA

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and they're the other what DARPA is the

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Pentagon's brain and she did one on

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paperclip - I'm interested in all things

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and she sat it on a take for instance

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that Roswell and not that I agree with

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her or know that it's true but I thought

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it was interesting that Roswell was

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actually Stalin who had got in the craft

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technology that Nazis had work on

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specifically the Horten brothers and he

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had crashed that craft there with

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genetically modified humans and

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throughout the book other than just area

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talks about you know the experimentation

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the Department of Energy and others were

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doing on human beings that Clinton would

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later you know go public about and at

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least talk about some of it so you know

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those are the type of things that are

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really interesting you know you before

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we went alive you said you'd watched

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invisible Empire I'm sure you think some

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of that it's slated and we can get into

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it but to me there is you know no matter

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I don't think a bunch of people sit at a

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table and they're like New World Order

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time that's not how the world works but

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I do think there are driving forces out

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there that meet that collude that are

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Pro globalism and they often use that

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term and when you get to that term what

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is it you know even Franklin Delano

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Roosevelt I put it in you know the intro

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of my film talks about Hitler's version

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of it and it's the regimentation of all

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human beings and I do see a push for

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that Nick it was interesting like an

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invisible Empire you talk about New

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World Order you talk about you have this

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kind of collage

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long of every single instance of New

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World Order that you could possibly find

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well I was because if you go to the

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credits on that you know that there's an

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even longer collage and idea even then I

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didn't put and this is you know when I

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made that film in 2010 it was actually a

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lot harder to get those video clips you

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know for instance span is

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one of my my biggest sources Vanderbilt

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archive was another place I was going

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for news archives you need transcripts

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yeah exactly I would have to go through

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transcripts and kinda hope I'd get a

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video clip or something

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especially with Vanderbilt you know they

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would only give you a synopsis they

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would not give you the full transcript

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of the thing so you know I was rolling

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dice and with that you know before I get

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into the quilt montage which i think is

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about five five plus minutes I talked

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about a guy named Samuel Zane bad right

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and his book from the early 1900's

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called New World Order and he comes at

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it as more of this Christian perspective

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but when it gets down to it you know in

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that book and anyone get the PDF it

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really is about collectivism now again

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it takes that spiritual context it's Pro

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Christian etc but it talks about again

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this one world order so on my point

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being that you know the more and more

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say we talk about China being bad right

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they have a driving technological force

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where they are trying to control their

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people through a social credit score and

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surveillance right we should be against

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that but at the same time they've been

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westernized they're wearing you know our

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style of clothing they have kpop all

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around you know the they've they've kind

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of integrated and at the same time on

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our end although we've been westernized

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we take more and more of this track

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trace database technology I mean that's

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one of the reasons I wanted to talk to

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you know I thought one of the more

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interesting things rogon about was deep

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fakes and I think that's a subject that

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is super interesting because like you

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said definitely up-and-coming yeah well

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your issue I never thought it would get

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to the level it is now another word mean

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is snaps yeah and I always thought it

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would I mean I you know I know that

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you're a programmer I find that super

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interesting by the way Tony Hawk did you

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work for Neversoft is that Julio

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I was one of the co-founders and

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Neversoft that's see that's a pretty

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cool thing you know and that's the other

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thing Nick I feel for you because

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everybody wants to throw up he's an

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agent you know he's a he's this he's

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that and I'm like look I you know I've

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talked with the guy enough I've seen

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enough I I don't know what your private

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life is like but I know that we all have

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them it's Lance exactly and you know I

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know it's been thrown at me that I'm a

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disinformation agent

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I worked for this or I'm a shill and I'm

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just a regular guy trying to make it and

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point out things that I think are

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interesting and important and you I mean

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you made a cultural phenomenon at one

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point being never soft I mean that was a

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Tony Hawk's one through four and even

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into underground were huge games they

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were huge cuz of the Zelda I worked on I

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he left after after underground and you

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know three was the tell you what man

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three was the one that uh it got me into

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it was great soundtrack got me into

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ac/dc when you know that kind of the

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background and the Dropkick Murphys

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especially so kudos to you and you know

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that the first one I picked up Tony Hawk

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three was like gotta be 98 or 99 got it

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with a GameCube moment bundle or

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whatever yeah time seemed a little more

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simple you know we had the birth of the

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Internet for instance you know we were

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just talking about UFOs and stuff right

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in that it was 90s it was the first time

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I had access say to PDF files of the

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majestic 12 documents that obviously you

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know I don't believe are real but I

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could read them you know I could read

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the MKULTRA documents for the first oh

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we were interested in that type of thing

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I went before 9/11 because you took oh

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yes well Empire how 9/11 was kind of

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like a wake up well for me I mean I

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bought into the official version through

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you know probably the first six months

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to a year I had questions on that day I

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mean just looking at the things going

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down and I you know guess we'll talk

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about that run and sauna clip in a

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minute but overall you know my biggest

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concerns were when I woke up I worked

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late night in in that time I was working

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island kids you know what I mean they

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had to drive through the city I'd been

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you know I'd been in the World Trade

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Center I'm a New York guy I used to go

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to Brooklyn all the time as a kid

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they're epic even anywhere you were in

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the borough's man you could see them and

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you just kind of stare them no matter

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what I remember so oh I get the impact

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my roommate comes in he tells me the

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towers are gone doesn't really register

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and I go down i watch about ten minutes

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of footage and I'm just like okay well

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this is you know I don't know if I can

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curse but uh you know is just I was just

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like blown away

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right let's let's say it that way and I

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walked out my back door and another one

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of my neighbors who was a Long Island

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kid you know this is a little college

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the street and I'm like okay well it's

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I'm getting up now and how would they

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know and you know just that that kind of

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turned me off but it was the birth of

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the 24-hour news network you know CNBC I

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don't know that was around MSNBC was

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around Fox News was around but it wasn't

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big you know there was maybe 60 70

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channels you not what you yes it was 24

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hours coverage after that that was

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something I remember about it yeah

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everyone ever on the TV yeah I couldn't

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everything wants to return a gloat

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well at least the first we I remember it

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was a big deal when they went live with

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Letterman I remember that was the big

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deal i I mean IRA lot of this stuff

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flip and honestly that that was kind of

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my birth into being a news junkie right

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to start following all of these

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different things and I specifically

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remember man it's it's so hard to find

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now I want to say it was Chris Hansen

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but it was basically one of these

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backdoor arms deals that was going on

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with a Pakistani that was an

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investigation table and I found that

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peculiar but you know again that didn't

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register with me that there might be

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something more than what what the TV was

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telling me about 9/11 and I'm really the

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first time I was interested introduced

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to the conspiracy was when Fox & Friends

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was trashing Theory massan's book

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LaPenta gate and even I was just

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extremely upset you know it's like yeah

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you know eff that guy I can't all the

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French will say anything and so it

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wasn't until even after that that I

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really started questioning everything

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and started I guess downloading a bunch

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of just archive footage that's what

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really set me off when I started

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downloading the archive footage you know

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there was a specific event that did that

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but I read to to I'm not gonna give this

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story on you know what triggered me to

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do it but I read two different big

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websites at the time it was stay at 911

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stand down down there and there was 9/11

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timeline net not the big timeline that's

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out now but it was just a 24 hour

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synopsis of of the day

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you know from 12 a.m. to 12 a.m. and

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there was a short little paragraph about

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our military budget how many people were

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on the plane some things to get me start

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questioning and that that's what set me

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off on that pick and I got to tell oh

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you know I know it's highly contested

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today but even now 18 years later we're

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starting to see that at least the Saudi

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financing come out right and lawsuits

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there I don't know how familiar you are

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with the dark overlord data dumps I've

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heard of them Biden is that where he it

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was less some litigation to look like

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but basically engines liability

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Christine but you know Silverstein's

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properties that's a big part of it right

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but one of the bigger parts of it for me

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is the family members and their

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depositions and the one of the bigger

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depositions I mean there's there's

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actually talk of the Pakistani ISI

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funding and in a couple of the documents

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I've gone over that you know the maja

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the general mamuno med transfer and

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whether they're gonna sue there remember

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there's still two parts that haven't

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been released you know which are

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supposedly have the more damning

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information whether it does or not I

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don't know

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but my most interesting was was the

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James Woods testimony you know if you

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watch fabled enemies yeah about how he

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had been on a flight prior and said that

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he had identified the hijackers and

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filed a report

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so to me I mean the biggest one in this

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is that it gave a date it was I believe

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it was mid August that this has occurred

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it was flight 11 you know and Khalid Al

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Modar who especially now is is kind of

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in the spotlight because he's the one

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that was funded by this Saudi one of the

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two right was on that plane

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now Modar doesn't hijack 11 he ends up I

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believe on 77 right but he's also one of

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the ones that's alleged to live with and

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rent from an FBI informant so for I mean

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you should read the transcript yourself

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it's out there for anybody for me when

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you have a Hollywood star in first class

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taking a stewardess over having the

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pilot come out having them all file

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reports having if you listen to his

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testimony he claims I forget what the

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FBI agents name is but he names an FBI

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agent that said

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yes all those things were filed and then

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he also claims that seymour hersh also

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verified that all three of those

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complaints were filed and they were

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talking about these guys hijacking a

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plane three weeks before yeah it's an

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interesting story I don't know the exact

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details but I remember you know talking

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about that and people saying it

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generally is generally accepted that

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that was kind of a dry run for the 9/11

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attacks what what's your your your

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personal view on where do you draw the

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line on conspiracy theories in terms of

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you know some people they don't think a

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plane hit the Pentagon and things like

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that I mean I wouldn't think you'd

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obviously that thought but like things

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like controlled demolition of the towers

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where do you stand on things like that

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I I mean you know how I feel about one

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two and seven I specially and you know I

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don't want to go at meal I'm not a

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physicist I think eyes at architects and

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engineers have done a great job

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I watched not the latest presentation

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right I read through that but some it's

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gotta be like 18 months ago a former

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NIST employee did like a 35 minute

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breakdown after leaving NIST and talking

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she loved that organization and how he

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was kind of taken aback when he started

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asking questions about 9/11 I'm not sure

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if you've seen that but I'd like to

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share that yeah that was work I remember

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his name now but he was he wasn't

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actually like a mechanical engineer he

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was like water water testing and I am it

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wasn't I'm not I'm not talking because

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obviously Evan Ryan story's different

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this is much much new so I'm not I'm not

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sure it wasn't in the division where

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they were investigating that but he was

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some kind of an engineer oh he was uh it

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was a mathematician he he he was doing

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mathematical visualizations of other

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stuff I remember him now I can't

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remember his name he's like he's a

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programmer basically now and does a

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phone apps it was dense but anyway you

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know just recently before the

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anniversary other than the Willy

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Rodriguez story you know I believe that

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there were secondary explosives that

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were set off that were other that did

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had nothing to do with the plane you

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know anthem Asya all those guys the

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manner in which they come down the blast

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points you know we could talk about

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pressure the fact that in the beginning

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they said you know

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yeah you know we had this uh what was it

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a pancaking collapsed right that was the

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first theory yeah and and again that

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changed over time Building seven

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especially I mean just look at it you

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know the Barry Jennings interview done

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we did and then he kind of recanted and

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then you know we put the whole thing out

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there you know I'm not gonna say that I

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don't know what happened to Barry but

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shortly after doing that BBC thing you

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know he was no longer with us so there's

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no really way to clarify that Michael

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Hess has never given a public statement

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about being in building seven aside from

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the news that day right there was a lot

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of problems with with Jennings story

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they're like you know his timeline

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didn't really make sense and you know he

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talks about being laid out in the lobby

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and stepping over bodies in the lobby of

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the World Trade Center said I know it's

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you know there was actually footage of

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the lobby sir there was how late is that

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footage you know that footage in the

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lobby

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you know I now that what is it there's

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first of all it was a lot of people went

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in World Trade Center seven like you

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know right at the start so there would

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have been all the people working in

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there and all the people who left

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talking about that I'm talking about the

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footage that's out there in the public

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if you if you go to uh you know I'll

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bring this up for the for the public for

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anyone that wants to check this out

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enhance WTC videos this guy's done a

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really great job of getting all the

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public missed footage right and that

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includes the back of World Trade Center

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seven I know they recently put that out

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there in the what was it the hundred and

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two minutes History Channel on but they

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go but in there you see them go up the

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escalators etc etc that's after the

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first collapse not the second collapse

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you know I'm I know I had pieces out

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there this is a great resource for

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people I mean this is just the raw

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footage that that basically miss Scott

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this guy doubled over the frames and

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he's resat rated him a little he's a

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good job I'd say this you know we can

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question that but you know buildings

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don't fall that way Mick and we're gonna

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get it to it and I'd like to get your

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opinion on now this run and sauna thing

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is yes I have a very very detailed

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opinion on this that's here have you

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read his entire statement

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I just listen up I only listen to ya

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it's easy to easy to take it out of

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context let me just there's a post on

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Medibank if you go to the homepage at

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Meadowbank but the first look page now

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is is is that Annie says let's see

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remember a 7 world trade had not come

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down yet so I went down to the New York

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Stock Exchange that Wednesday morning

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now Wednesday of course is the day after

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Tuesday and no 911 was on a Tuesday so

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this is him visiting the site on

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September the 12th which was on and

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World Trade Center 7 had come down on

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September 11th so it seems pretty

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obvious from the get-go he's talking

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about something else there in these days

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you know we were looking over in that

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direction and if it had come down in the

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way it was tilting it would have wiped

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out everything from where it stood to

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Trinity Church to the exchange the stock

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exchange to effectively the mouth of the

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Hudson but if you look at actual map of

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that that's that doesn't actually make

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any sense whatsoever for World Trade

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Center 7 which of course is to the north

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of us of the actual site and would have

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just fallen

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you know most it would have fallen into

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the the 1 & 2 area here the main World

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Trade Center area so he's actually

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talking about a different building and

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if you look at his description what he's

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actually talking about is a building

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called c1 Liberty Plaza which is a navy

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if you scroll down to the my next post

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after that you'll see I get through that

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map there ok so so that's one Liberty

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Park Plaza in the middle and you can see

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just to the right of that is Trinity

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Church and the stock exchange so yeah if

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one Liberty Plaza had fallen over it

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would have taken out Trinity Church and

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it would have taken out stock exchange

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but World Trade Center 7 which had

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collapsed the previous day was in no

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danger so he's obviously talking about a

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different building so you think the

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mistake is made that he's talking not

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only about another building but another

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day instead of the mistake being made

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that he's that it's Tuesday and not

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Wednesday no but I'm thinking about both

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I mean they're both issues obviously

540
00:20:02,920 --> 00:20:01,220
because he he he's you know he he

541
00:20:06,100 --> 00:20:02,930
visited the site on September

542
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:06,110
12 and he's saying like Quinta talking

543
00:20:10,330 --> 00:20:07,490
about this building that he thought was

544
00:20:14,140 --> 00:20:10,340
going to collapse and then he said I'm

545
00:20:15,310 --> 00:20:14,150
just wondering if and this is obviously

546
00:20:18,430 --> 00:20:15,320
and if that you don't think it's

547
00:20:21,010 --> 00:20:18,440
possible but if just World Trade Center

548
00:20:22,270 --> 00:20:21,020
7 was proven to you as a controlled

549
00:20:24,820 --> 00:20:22,280
demolition just something was so

550
00:20:27,220 --> 00:20:24,830
irrefutable would that your opinion of

551
00:20:30,550 --> 00:20:27,230
9/11 at all oh yeah definitely because

552
00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:30,560
it would be a yeah kind of an incredible

553
00:20:35,230 --> 00:20:32,450
thing I mean I I don't think it's a

554
00:20:37,450 --> 00:20:35,240
viable thing for them to have decided on

555
00:20:39,130 --> 00:20:37,460
that day to go in and rig the building

556
00:20:41,260 --> 00:20:39,140
with explosives then bring it down and

557
00:20:43,030 --> 00:20:41,270
do that secretly without anybody finding

558
00:20:44,890 --> 00:20:43,040
out and cover it all up and you know

559
00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:44,900
tell all the firemen's it required about

560
00:20:48,270 --> 00:20:46,610
it and stuff like that it's just it's

561
00:20:50,710 --> 00:20:48,280
just such a highly implausible thing

562
00:20:54,100 --> 00:20:50,720
even if it wasn't part of some broader

563
00:20:55,840 --> 00:20:54,110
conspiracy you know it's actually makes

564
00:20:58,050 --> 00:20:55,850
more sense in a way that it would be pre

565
00:21:00,550 --> 00:20:58,060
rigged with with explosives but you know

566
00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:00,560
that's how I feel about it you know and

567
00:21:03,910 --> 00:21:01,730
I would that maybe that would be a

568
00:21:06,340 --> 00:21:03,920
contingent contingency plan because of

569
00:21:09,460 --> 00:21:06,350
you know the largest CIA base being in

570
00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:09,470
there outside of Langley the SEC the

571
00:21:13,570 --> 00:21:11,210
Office of Emergency Management I mean

572
00:21:15,370 --> 00:21:13,580
these were hubs I mean one and two also

573
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:15,380
there's no way I mean yeah you

574
00:21:19,420 --> 00:21:17,810
understand how intelligence works and

575
00:21:21,790 --> 00:21:19,430
that they're subdivisions and even like

576
00:21:23,170 --> 00:21:21,800
a Kroll or whatever or a strap fur

577
00:21:24,940 --> 00:21:23,180
they're gonna have connections to

578
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:24,950
intelligence agencies somewhere that's

579
00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:26,930
where most of these people come from now

580
00:21:32,740 --> 00:21:30,290
to me anyway you know just the the

581
00:21:34,570 --> 00:21:32,750
funding alone the funding mechanism for

582
00:21:36,430 --> 00:21:34,580
these guys raises huge questions and I

583
00:21:38,110 --> 00:21:36,440
wonder how you feel about that for for

584
00:21:41,380 --> 00:21:38,120
instance I think it's pretty irrefutable

585
00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:41,390
that Pakistan on a base level has

586
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:43,250
something to do with this right general

587
00:21:48,580 --> 00:21:45,290
mamuno mad at fact I'm not sure you're

588
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:48,590
aware but dan Rather and CBS aired that

589
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:51,410
piece in 2002 where they said then Laden

590
00:21:55,060 --> 00:21:53,090
was being protected by the Pakistani

591
00:21:57,610 --> 00:21:55,070
military in a hospital the night before

592
00:21:59,190 --> 00:21:57,620
9/11 and of course leave the regular

593
00:22:02,500 --> 00:21:59,200
raid they find him in a bottle bot

594
00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:02,510
Pakistan so I mean I think that I think

595
00:22:06,490 --> 00:22:04,730
the things like issues of the funding

596
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:06,500
are the issues that people should be

597
00:22:10,450 --> 00:22:09,050
looking at because yeah from promoters

598
00:22:11,710 --> 00:22:10,460
perspective what I see is that the

599
00:22:13,900 --> 00:22:11,720
planes hit the building is they caught

600
00:22:15,580 --> 00:22:13,910
fire and then they collapsed building

601
00:22:16,170 --> 00:22:15,590
seven also caught fire and was hit by

602
00:22:20,250 --> 00:22:16,180
the

603
00:22:22,140 --> 00:22:20,260
that to me seems like a fairly

604
00:22:24,690 --> 00:22:22,150
straightforward my physics basis and

605
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:24,700
I've got you know I I'm not like a

606
00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:26,170
physicist either but I have a lot of

607
00:22:30,780 --> 00:22:28,090
experience programming physics and doing

608
00:22:33,510 --> 00:22:30,790
physics simulations for video games

609
00:22:35,550 --> 00:22:33,520
obviously and so from my perspective it

610
00:22:37,620 --> 00:22:35,560
all it all seems to make sense and the

611
00:22:39,930 --> 00:22:37,630
objections that a e-911 raise don't make

612
00:22:41,220 --> 00:22:39,940
sense so I think this thing about

613
00:22:45,030 --> 00:22:41,230
controlled demolition is a big

614
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:45,040
distraction from any real corruption

615
00:22:49,050 --> 00:22:46,450
that's going on and you know obviously

616
00:22:50,670 --> 00:22:49,060
you know there is definitely geo

617
00:22:52,110 --> 00:22:50,680
political corruption and there's this

618
00:22:53,670 --> 00:22:52,120
industrial corruption and there's

619
00:22:55,470 --> 00:22:53,680
individual corruption there's all kinds

620
00:22:56,820 --> 00:22:55,480
of corruption in the world and I

621
00:22:59,340 --> 00:22:56,830
certainly don't agree with everything

622
00:23:01,890 --> 00:22:59,350
that you say an invisible Empire but

623
00:23:03,540 --> 00:23:01,900
there's certainly this elements of truth

624
00:23:05,850 --> 00:23:03,550
to it and that there are powerful people

625
00:23:09,810 --> 00:23:05,860
who are looking out for their own best

626
00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:09,820
interests and there are people who have

627
00:23:14,430 --> 00:23:12,370
broader agendas who were trying to do

628
00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:14,440
things in a geopolitical stage and you

629
00:23:18,570 --> 00:23:16,690
just got to look at you know what's

630
00:23:24,030 --> 00:23:18,580
coming out today the the stuff with

631
00:23:26,190 --> 00:23:24,040
Trump by playing little games with I was

632
00:23:28,110 --> 00:23:26,200
in the Ukraine maybe well the Ukraine

633
00:23:29,700 --> 00:23:28,120
but the whole alright so and we're kind

634
00:23:31,170 --> 00:23:29,710
of getting a little off 9/11 but it's

635
00:23:33,930 --> 00:23:31,180
interesting because this is the big hot

636
00:23:37,350 --> 00:23:33,940
take of the day right to me I've seen a

637
00:23:40,170 --> 00:23:37,360
shift that somehow this scandal about

638
00:23:42,300 --> 00:23:40,180
this the actual scandal becomes the

639
00:23:45,120 --> 00:23:42,310
scandal for instance I did a piece all

640
00:23:47,070 --> 00:23:45,130
the way back in April on this Biden

641
00:23:48,180 --> 00:23:47,080
Ukraine scandal before Trump was asking

642
00:23:50,700 --> 00:23:48,190
for an investigation I don't know how

643
00:23:52,830 --> 00:23:50,710
familiar you are with it but essentially

644
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:52,840
it goes like this his son has no

645
00:23:57,180 --> 00:23:54,850
experience with energy he's getting a

646
00:23:59,310 --> 00:23:57,190
50k a month job and he I believe it was

647
00:24:03,210 --> 00:23:59,320
a 1.5 million dollar initial payout

648
00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:03,220
right so I have Biden at the CFR next to

649
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:05,050
Richard Haass I believe it was in

650
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:06,850
January of 2018

651
00:24:12,870 --> 00:24:08,890
not talking about that but talking about

652
00:24:15,090 --> 00:24:12,880
coming in on a plane on behalf of that

653
00:24:17,820 --> 00:24:15,100
one billion dollar loan for arms right

654
00:24:20,460 --> 00:24:17,830
so basically they had already negotiated

655
00:24:21,990 --> 00:24:20,470
a 1 billion dollar deal that they were

656
00:24:25,140 --> 00:24:22,000
gonna loan to the Ukraine for their

657
00:24:26,790 --> 00:24:25,150
military now he gets in there and Biden

658
00:24:29,250 --> 00:24:26,800
says that he had already been assured by

659
00:24:29,970 --> 00:24:29,260
uh it starts with a P but the believer

660
00:24:30,930 --> 00:24:29,980
there the

661
00:24:33,690 --> 00:24:30,940
they're talking about I don't want to

662
00:24:35,669 --> 00:24:33,700
miss Parnassus name poroshenko and

663
00:24:38,370 --> 00:24:35,679
another person that they were gonna fire

664
00:24:42,210 --> 00:24:38,380
the prosecutor who was investigating his

665
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:42,220
son okay so this prosecutor was already

666
00:24:46,140 --> 00:24:44,410
in the mix of investigating his kid for

667
00:24:49,530 --> 00:24:46,150
this crooked energy deal right

668
00:24:51,750 --> 00:24:49,540
so Biden says it like this the leader

669
00:24:52,890 --> 00:24:51,760
says well you're not the president and

670
00:24:54,150 --> 00:24:52,900
he says well why don't you call him

671
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:54,160
you're not gonna get the money and then

672
00:24:58,710 --> 00:24:55,330
he tells him that he's gonna be out of

673
00:25:01,140 --> 00:24:58,720
plane in six albert's and so the guy

674
00:25:03,120 --> 00:25:01,150
fires him they fire this prosecutor I

675
00:25:04,890 --> 00:25:03,130
think these are kind of like you know

676
00:25:06,180 --> 00:25:04,900
separate issues in a way like even if

677
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:06,190
Biden was involved in some kind of

678
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:08,530
corruption to me you know this is

679
00:25:11,610 --> 00:25:10,090
something listen I'm not a fan of either

680
00:25:14,669 --> 00:25:11,620
side right and the question is really if

681
00:25:16,350 --> 00:25:14,679
Trump actually broke the law but what

682
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:16,360
solicit the help from a foreign

683
00:25:22,919 --> 00:25:18,730
government to like think about okay what

684
00:25:24,780 --> 00:25:22,929
water guest that's mota gay yeah well

685
00:25:26,340 --> 00:25:24,790
that's what he what if Nixon was

686
00:25:27,930 --> 00:25:26,350
actually investigating something that

687
00:25:29,340 --> 00:25:27,940
the DNC did that he personally thought

688
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:29,350
was illegal like you thought it was

689
00:25:35,820 --> 00:25:33,010
going on wasn't the crime physically

690
00:25:37,710 --> 00:25:35,830
breaking in and trying to steal [\h__\h] I

691
00:25:41,190 --> 00:25:37,720
didn't want a curse but I'm looking at

692
00:25:42,810 --> 00:25:41,200
this right and to me it's a real scandal

693
00:25:44,159 --> 00:25:42,820
I'm not a Joe Biden fan in fact Joe

694
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:44,169
Biden is one of these guys that's well

695
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:46,450
aware of the Pakistani ISI funding he

696
00:25:50,970 --> 00:25:48,730
went on TV in September 13th and bragged

697
00:25:53,340 --> 00:25:50,980
that he had a talk with general mahmood

698
00:25:55,049 --> 00:25:53,350
ahmad who he called the first or the

699
00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:55,059
second most powerful person in that

700
00:25:59,610 --> 00:25:57,760
nation he threatened Pakistan on the

701
00:26:01,470 --> 00:25:59,620
floor of the Senate and said you know

702
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:01,480
they're gonna have to make a hard

703
00:26:04,860 --> 00:26:03,250
decision very soon and of course they

704
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:04,870
made the decision to ally with the US

705
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:07,570
and you know he was caught twice talking

706
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:09,490
about this funding and saying you know

707
00:26:12,659 --> 00:26:11,530
it was classified right and that they

708
00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:12,669
were working with the Taliban for

709
00:26:16,140 --> 00:26:14,290
instance Bob Graham's very open about

710
00:26:18,150 --> 00:26:16,150
the fact that general Mahmood a med was

711
00:26:20,610 --> 00:26:18,160
working with the Taliban as well Taliban

712
00:26:22,830 --> 00:26:20,620
and by the way Al Queda very different

713
00:26:24,510 --> 00:26:22,840
things to me but it showed a funding

714
00:26:26,549 --> 00:26:24,520
mechanism it shows that Biden's well

715
00:26:28,620 --> 00:26:26,559
aware of this no one challenges him on

716
00:26:29,789 --> 00:26:28,630
that up on the stage right no one's no

717
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:29,799
one's even talking about foreign policy

718
00:26:34,860 --> 00:26:32,320
for the most part at these horrible DNC

719
00:26:37,289 --> 00:26:34,870
debates now I'm talking about this in

720
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:37,299
April hoping that they can investigate

721
00:26:41,549 --> 00:26:39,490
this right now they've already replaced

722
00:26:43,529 --> 00:26:41,559
the prosecutor but my point would be

723
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:43,539
this they're no longer under

724
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:46,720
administration that already corrupted

725
00:26:51,239 --> 00:26:49,450
the investigation so Trump saying hey

726
00:26:53,549 --> 00:26:51,249
you can reopen that or you should reopen

727
00:26:54,659 --> 00:26:53,559
that isn't a problem to me that's my

728
00:26:58,769 --> 00:26:54,669
that's my point

729
00:27:00,239 --> 00:26:58,779
it's a he's not all he's doing is saying

730
00:27:02,279 --> 00:27:00,249
you know he's putting all this effort

731
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:02,289
into trying to get bite and investigated

732
00:27:05,940 --> 00:27:03,850
is he putting effort into getting

733
00:27:07,409 --> 00:27:05,950
everybody else investigated who as has

734
00:27:09,210 --> 00:27:07,419
allegations of corruption there's all

735
00:27:10,979 --> 00:27:09,220
kinds of allegations that corrupt a

736
00:27:12,899 --> 00:27:10,989
Pharaoh's made people throughout the

737
00:27:14,879 --> 00:27:12,909
world but he picks out Biden he picks

738
00:27:16,499 --> 00:27:14,889
out Biden because he thinks deciding is

739
00:27:20,639 --> 00:27:16,509
going to be is his opponent in the

740
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:20,649
election but again it's so so by your

741
00:27:23,369 --> 00:27:22,809
logic you should just get away with it

742
00:27:25,710 --> 00:27:23,379
cuz of who he is

743
00:27:27,210 --> 00:27:25,720
Oh Biden oh right it's just some

744
00:27:29,249 --> 00:27:27,220
corruption there obviously it should be

745
00:27:34,830 --> 00:27:29,259
prosecuted but saying with everybody

746
00:27:36,389 --> 00:27:34,840
else I agree like what about Trump I

747
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:36,399
think that you know is really an

748
00:27:41,009 --> 00:27:39,369
impeachable offense on Trump I don't

749
00:27:43,289 --> 00:27:41,019
know that there's a lot especially when

750
00:27:44,549 --> 00:27:43,299
you look at past presidents now that's

751
00:27:47,159 --> 00:27:44,559
not to say I love him

752
00:27:50,190 --> 00:27:47,169
I don't I'm very upset with what's going

753
00:27:51,180 --> 00:27:50,200
on in Afghanistan Iraq for instance when

754
00:27:52,859 --> 00:27:51,190
he talked about the military-industrial

755
00:27:55,589 --> 00:27:52,869
complex I don't know if you call it that

756
00:27:58,589 --> 00:27:55,599
clip on Fox you did you sure from Trump

757
00:28:02,039 --> 00:27:58,599
talking about it yes we essentially it

758
00:28:04,139 --> 00:28:02,049
was after the drone incident right they

759
00:28:06,749 --> 00:28:04,149
shot down our robot you know nobody

760
00:28:14,700 --> 00:28:06,759
seemed brand Ronan's incident yeah and

761
00:28:16,769 --> 00:28:14,710
nobody so this droning sedan no one

762
00:28:18,690 --> 00:28:16,779
talks about the fact that first of all

763
00:28:20,729 --> 00:28:18,700
it's very unlikely this was not in their

764
00:28:22,409 --> 00:28:20,739
airspace this is a drone that flies at

765
00:28:24,499 --> 00:28:22,419
60,000 feet we don't have him shot out

766
00:28:26,909 --> 00:28:24,509
of the air every day Mick this is the

767
00:28:29,039 --> 00:28:26,919
Iran's airspace shooting down take back

768
00:28:32,549 --> 00:28:29,049
control just for that to happen it

769
00:28:34,830 --> 00:28:32,559
appears we baited them you know - there

770
00:28:36,479 --> 00:28:34,840
was a naval plane in the vicinity of

771
00:28:39,019 --> 00:28:36,489
that drone at the same time with a

772
00:28:42,509 --> 00:28:39,029
hundred and thirty one real people on it

773
00:28:43,589 --> 00:28:42,519
Iran did not shoot that down they put it

774
00:28:45,029 --> 00:28:43,599
out there they said they could prove

775
00:28:47,310 --> 00:28:45,039
that both of those things were in their

776
00:28:49,619 --> 00:28:47,320
airspace US media hasn't covered it much

777
00:28:51,299 --> 00:28:49,629
both pense and Trump have talked about

778
00:28:53,549 --> 00:28:51,309
the fact that they used restraint and

779
00:28:56,700 --> 00:28:53,559
that Iran did not shoot down that naval

780
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:56,710
plane with people in right that's a big

781
00:28:59,520 --> 00:28:57,250
G

782
00:29:01,410 --> 00:28:59,530
political scandal to me and then for

783
00:29:03,450 --> 00:29:01,420
that why would they shoot down a plane

784
00:29:05,850 --> 00:29:03,460
with 130 people and it's one thing that

785
00:29:10,110 --> 00:29:05,860
you down a drone but you know Lane would

786
00:29:12,030 --> 00:29:10,120
being it although exactly but why are

787
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:12,040
you putting that stuff in their area

788
00:29:16,410 --> 00:29:13,930
listen we already surround their nation

789
00:29:18,390 --> 00:29:16,420
in that Gulf region right now we I'm not

790
00:29:21,390 --> 00:29:18,400
telling you I love the Iranian regime or

791
00:29:23,310 --> 00:29:21,400
any of that I'm saying that Iran's not

792
00:29:25,110 --> 00:29:23,320
surrounding our coast they're not on the

793
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:25,120
Pacific you know Russia isn't there

794
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:26,530
either you know their biggest ally

795
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:29,770
nobody say our military is there they're

796
00:29:34,290 --> 00:29:32,530
not running planes around there I like

797
00:29:35,250 --> 00:29:34,300
the restraint but then when Trump talks

798
00:29:38,250 --> 00:29:35,260
about the military-industrial complex

799
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:38,260
and then says that Afghanistan is the

800
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:40,690
Harvard University of terrorism that's

801
00:29:46,770 --> 00:29:41,650
nonsense

802
00:29:50,430 --> 00:29:46,780
you gotta love the WikiLeaks and now

803
00:29:52,770 --> 00:29:50,440
Assange is in this crazy 1414 part

804
00:29:54,420 --> 00:29:52,780
indictment which would eviscerate free

805
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:54,430
speech as we know it and publishing

806
00:29:58,740 --> 00:29:55,930
rights you know literally going after

807
00:30:01,830 --> 00:29:58,750
him for things like saying if you have

808
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:01,840
information we'll pay you $25,000 for it

809
00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:04,090
not you know just encouraging hacking

810
00:30:09,150 --> 00:30:06,370
he's a cyber terrorist for encouraging

811
00:30:11,070 --> 00:30:09,160
hacking or encouraging people to get

812
00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:11,080
real information I think that mechanism

813
00:30:15,090 --> 00:30:13,090
is extremely important I hope you would

814
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:15,100
agree that to me again

815
00:30:19,410 --> 00:30:17,770
this whole Russia gate thing is not as

816
00:30:21,750 --> 00:30:19,420
important as the emails themselves that

817
00:30:23,490 --> 00:30:21,760
came out you know that like that was the

818
00:30:25,140 --> 00:30:23,500
scandal to me let's read those emails

819
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:25,150
let's look at the corruption there I

820
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:27,250
think again you can do both you know you

821
00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:29,530
could still if Clinton did do something

822
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:31,510
wrong then yeah let's look at that but

823
00:30:35,580 --> 00:30:34,210
if if you know yeah other people did

824
00:30:37,830 --> 00:30:35,590
things wrong too it doesn't mean that

825
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:37,840
just because they were trying to throw

826
00:30:41,850 --> 00:30:40,930
something else that idea that hold on

827
00:30:44,940 --> 00:30:41,860
this whole idea that now

828
00:30:47,580 --> 00:30:44,950
administration's don't work with foreign

829
00:30:50,190 --> 00:30:47,590
powers or other intelligence agencies to

830
00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:50,200
get dirt on people is nonsense it's been

831
00:30:54,930 --> 00:30:52,570
going on forever it's not new right it's

832
00:30:56,820 --> 00:30:54,940
that's all this isn't new and you know

833
00:30:58,020 --> 00:30:56,830
they're conflated you know I don't know

834
00:31:01,410 --> 00:30:58,030
how much of the Muller report you've

835
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:01,420
read or the pre remember when they put

836
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:03,970
out that first FBI document kind of

837
00:31:07,770 --> 00:31:06,010
linking Russia to interfering with the

838
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:07,780
elections where they had Artie and Abby

839
00:31:12,630 --> 00:31:10,480
Martin in there it wasn't a lot of proof

840
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:12,640
they had run the the basic idea that

841
00:31:18,570 --> 00:31:15,850
this goose' 42.0 was a conglomerate of

842
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:18,580
bad russian actors right and then they

843
00:31:22,049 --> 00:31:20,559
were showing like base Russia propaganda

844
00:31:23,700 --> 00:31:22,059
didn't have any evidence on it so what

845
00:31:25,470 --> 00:31:23,710
do you think there of the the internet

846
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:25,480
research agency like Russia is kind of

847
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:27,370
supposed a hothouse of people like

848
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:30,730
trolling the internet for Russian

849
00:31:34,860 --> 00:31:32,770
propaganda purposes you think exists

850
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:34,870
saying it doesn't exist how effective it

851
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:37,210
is I think is overblown to the max I

852
00:31:42,060 --> 00:31:40,090
think that Zuckerberg for instance when

853
00:31:43,919 --> 00:31:42,070
he was initially talked to about this he

854
00:31:45,659 --> 00:31:43,929
laughed about it he scoffed at it it's

855
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:45,669
like a good I you know I think that the

856
00:31:49,020 --> 00:31:47,200
people can you know and then he flipped

857
00:31:50,730 --> 00:31:49,030
a hundred percent and it wasn't just

858
00:31:52,140 --> 00:31:50,740
because he had looked into it and did

859
00:31:54,180 --> 00:31:52,150
the actual research because they did

860
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:54,190
actually look at like I believe these

861
00:31:57,419 --> 00:31:54,960
commercials

862
00:31:58,980 --> 00:31:57,429
that's listen there's a lot of people

863
00:32:00,000 --> 00:31:58,990
that don't want him in there I mean I

864
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:00,010
don't know if you how much you for the

865
00:32:04,020 --> 00:32:02,530
last 18 months there are plenty of

866
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:04,030
shareholders that want to flip him out

867
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:05,650
you know and I think that's the case

868
00:32:10,230 --> 00:32:08,290
before it's listen Facebook's powerful

869
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:10,240
man I mean I would say you know it has

870
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:12,850
it has a huge base I get the the fact

871
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:14,290
that you know we could talk about

872
00:32:18,150 --> 00:32:16,210
interfering with elections but at the

873
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:18,160
end of the day I I don't think that

874
00:32:22,590 --> 00:32:20,890
Russia is you know brainwashing the

875
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:22,600
masses I think they certainly have their

876
00:32:26,789 --> 00:32:25,510
interests I think they are trying to I I

877
00:32:28,620 --> 00:32:26,799
think they certainly would rather had

878
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:28,630
Trump in there than Clinton you know I'm

879
00:32:34,289 --> 00:32:31,450
I won't say that but I do not think that

880
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:34,299
they especially even before the

881
00:32:37,530 --> 00:32:35,770
indictment I remember when they put out

882
00:32:39,030 --> 00:32:37,540
that first GRU report and they were

883
00:32:40,890 --> 00:32:39,040
naming these people you know the people

884
00:32:42,870 --> 00:32:40,900
they were gonna indict it was very thin

885
00:32:45,090 --> 00:32:42,880
you know it's very thin to me I was like

886
00:32:47,070 --> 00:32:45,100
well do you think they did this you know

887
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:47,080
can you provide me with more or how they

888
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:48,970
did it you know even the Alice Donald

889
00:32:52,590 --> 00:32:51,010
Alice Donovan character I don't know if

890
00:32:56,970 --> 00:32:52,600
you're familiar with that but this was

891
00:32:59,669 --> 00:32:56,980
someone who was posing as a journalist

892
00:33:02,070 --> 00:32:59,679
right so she was contacting different

893
00:33:04,169 --> 00:33:02,080
little media outlets counterpunch being

894
00:33:05,730 --> 00:33:04,179
one of them that published her and she

895
00:33:08,190 --> 00:33:05,740
ended up being a conglomerate of these

896
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:08,200
people so yeah that stuff exists you

897
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:10,570
know I'm not saying it does it did Alice

898
00:33:16,260 --> 00:33:12,850
Donovan do this on behalf of the Trump

899
00:33:18,990 --> 00:33:16,270
administration or or I mean the group or

900
00:33:20,340 --> 00:33:19,000
even Russian agents working with Trump

901
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:20,350
no I don't believe that yeah well I

902
00:33:23,820 --> 00:33:21,730
think Russia gate itself like there

903
00:33:26,430 --> 00:33:23,830
isn't enough evidence to prosecute but

904
00:33:28,770 --> 00:33:26,440
obviously Russia is trying to influence

905
00:33:31,620 --> 00:33:28,780
the elections to a degree but I'm sure

906
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:31,630
the CIA tries to influence elections in

907
00:33:36,630 --> 00:33:34,450
other countries too it doesn't mean it's

908
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:36,640
a good thing just because you know one

909
00:33:39,870 --> 00:33:38,650
side is doing it I prefer like people in

910
00:33:45,180 --> 00:33:39,880
a country to make their own decisions

911
00:33:47,250 --> 00:33:45,190
but I think about this all right you

912
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:47,260
know you're talking about interference

913
00:33:51,330 --> 00:33:49,210
in elections and you know whether or not

914
00:33:52,980 --> 00:33:51,340
I don't believe that they thought they

915
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:52,990
were going to find Russian collusion I

916
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:54,370
don't think that was the purpose of this

917
00:33:58,170 --> 00:33:56,290
at all I thought I think they were gonna

918
00:34:00,000 --> 00:33:58,180
do to Trump what they did to Manafort

919
00:34:02,130 --> 00:34:00,010
and others they were hoping to get him

920
00:34:03,540 --> 00:34:02,140
in the seat and get a perjury trap

921
00:34:05,180 --> 00:34:03,550
that's what they did to Clinton right

922
00:34:08,130 --> 00:34:05,190
Clinton it's not like Clinton got

923
00:34:10,620 --> 00:34:08,140
impeached for an affair he got impeached

924
00:34:12,570 --> 00:34:10,630
for lying about that and fair affair so

925
00:34:14,070 --> 00:34:12,580
I really feel like you know that was

926
00:34:16,290 --> 00:34:14,080
this whole thing if we can get him to

927
00:34:17,909 --> 00:34:16,300
sit down and just start talking that's

928
00:34:19,740 --> 00:34:17,919
it and they weren't able to do that and

929
00:34:21,899 --> 00:34:19,750
that's when they said you know what now

930
00:34:23,100 --> 00:34:21,909
we have to take this report about

931
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:23,110
Russian collusion we have to break it

932
00:34:27,149 --> 00:34:24,850
into two parts and we have to make it

933
00:34:28,830 --> 00:34:27,159
totally about obstruction of justice and

934
00:34:31,290 --> 00:34:28,840
the other thing is that you saw those

935
00:34:33,090 --> 00:34:31,300
obstruction of justice talking points 12

936
00:34:35,010 --> 00:34:33,100
months before people like a vanetti were

937
00:34:37,860 --> 00:34:35,020
throwing them out all over the place so

938
00:34:39,389 --> 00:34:37,870
I I knew from the get-go they weren't

939
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:39,399
gonna find Russian collusion it was a

940
00:34:43,740 --> 00:34:41,050
perjury trap just like they did with

941
00:34:44,820 --> 00:34:43,750
manna fort Trump didn't fall for it so

942
00:34:47,159 --> 00:34:44,830
then they tried to make it about

943
00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:47,169
something else Moeller looked horrible

944
00:34:51,950 --> 00:34:49,630
up there you can't say they wasn't so

945
00:34:54,930 --> 00:34:51,960
good sharing it's a bit disappointing oh

946
00:34:56,430 --> 00:34:54,940
so you know listen front men exist

947
00:34:58,560 --> 00:34:56,440
you know Muller was just the face of

948
00:35:00,480 --> 00:34:58,570
that he wasn't running that operation I

949
00:35:01,260 --> 00:35:00,490
mean I don't believe he was if he was I

950
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:01,270
think he would have had a lot more

951
00:35:04,530 --> 00:35:02,650
information while he was sitting up

952
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:04,540
there you know he was a figurehead they

953
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:06,850
could put out there as a guy who was in

954
00:35:11,700 --> 00:35:09,370
the Bush administration you know worked

955
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:11,710
work on 9/11 you know how I feel about

956
00:35:15,390 --> 00:35:13,930
Muller I'm not fan yeah I think I think

957
00:35:17,250 --> 00:35:15,400
that you know like he said that the

958
00:35:20,490 --> 00:35:17,260
report is what is actually the product

959
00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:20,500
of the investigation not his personal

960
00:35:25,350 --> 00:35:23,920
accounts of it but let's so let's kind

961
00:35:26,730 --> 00:35:25,360
of switch gears a little bit here like

962
00:35:29,670 --> 00:35:26,740
yeah I want to talk about some of your

963
00:35:33,030 --> 00:35:29,680
like yeah I'm really interested in how

964
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:33,040
your beliefs have changed over time you

965
00:35:36,070 --> 00:35:34,650
used to be

966
00:35:39,140 --> 00:35:36,080
[Music]

967
00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:39,150
perhaps a bit more conspiratorial than

968
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:40,320
you are now and I'm just wondering if

969
00:35:44,900 --> 00:35:41,970
there are things that you thought in the

970
00:35:47,630 --> 00:35:44,910
past to be true that you no longer think

971
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:47,640
to be true like as you get older and

972
00:35:53,390 --> 00:35:50,130
wiser well I would say that alien thing

973
00:35:55,850 --> 00:35:53,400
is for sure you know I I like your take

974
00:35:57,830 --> 00:35:55,860
on a lot of the to the stars Academy

975
00:35:59,570 --> 00:35:57,840
stuff you know I know I know you don't

976
00:36:01,190 --> 00:35:59,580
believe that those gimbal footage or

977
00:36:02,570 --> 00:36:01,200
anything nefarious you think ones like a

978
00:36:05,780 --> 00:36:02,580
seagull right

979
00:36:07,370 --> 00:36:05,790
well that is the possibility of the

980
00:36:08,870 --> 00:36:07,380
go-fast thing I think is more likely a

981
00:36:13,010 --> 00:36:08,880
balloon pretty it's actually a small

982
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:13,020
slow-moving object so but I would say

983
00:36:16,910 --> 00:36:15,330
the you believe that we have other type

984
00:36:18,410 --> 00:36:16,920
of aerial vehicles than what we're

985
00:36:19,940 --> 00:36:18,420
putting out there right and possibly

986
00:36:21,380 --> 00:36:19,950
other types of propulsion systems oh

987
00:36:23,030 --> 00:36:21,390
yeah but I wouldn't I wouldn't think

988
00:36:24,140 --> 00:36:23,040
they're gonna be quite as advanced as

989
00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:24,150
people are making out like they're

990
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:25,680
talking about things that can move like

991
00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:28,410
you know five miles in tenth of a second

992
00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:29,760
or something like that from from a dead

993
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:31,910
stop which would be literally impossible

994
00:36:36,110 --> 00:36:34,050
with physics as we know it

995
00:36:37,700 --> 00:36:36,120
so yeah I'm sure there's like stealth

996
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:37,710
fighters and there's things that move a

997
00:36:42,290 --> 00:36:38,970
bit faster and there's probably some

998
00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:42,300
interesting-looking drones but you do

999
00:36:47,780 --> 00:36:44,640
that a V patent that's out there of

1000
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:47,790
these three UFO like vehicles that say

1001
00:36:52,220 --> 00:36:49,290
that they're anti-gravity and there's

1002
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:52,230
another couple out there that also have

1003
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:54,570
like weird gravitational fields etc and

1004
00:36:57,590 --> 00:36:56,010
you can you can look these patents up I

1005
00:36:59,030 --> 00:36:57,600
mean they're reporting them on Metro but

1006
00:37:00,290 --> 00:36:59,040
you know I actually have been to the

1007
00:37:03,020 --> 00:37:00,300
patent site well what are your opinions

1008
00:37:04,820 --> 00:37:03,030
on even that stuff that's public yeah my

1009
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:04,830
opinions are the pasinetta complete

1010
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:06,810
[\h__\h] just because something is

1011
00:37:11,420 --> 00:37:08,130
patented it doesn't mean it actually

1012
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:11,430
exists there's a patent for a birthing

1013
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:14,970
aid that was actual real patent and what

1014
00:37:19,700 --> 00:37:16,890
it involves was strapping a woman to a

1015
00:37:22,130 --> 00:37:19,710
rotating table and spinning her around

1016
00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:22,140
until the baby pops out by centrifugal

1017
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:25,710
force evil and MEC it's no no but

1018
00:37:29,780 --> 00:37:28,110
there's also there's also patents for

1019
00:37:32,390 --> 00:37:29,790
things like teleportation devices

1020
00:37:34,670 --> 00:37:32,400
patents get issued and yeah maybe that

1021
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:34,680
the Navy like here has some idea about

1022
00:37:37,730 --> 00:37:36,210
some advanced technology or something

1023
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:37,740
that you might work in the future so

1024
00:37:40,850 --> 00:37:38,730
they've happened it they just buttoned

1025
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:40,860
everything people patent everything that

1026
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:42,930
comes into their heads doesn't mean it

1027
00:37:49,319 --> 00:37:47,850
exists again I say that the majority of

1028
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:49,329
what we're seeing

1029
00:37:55,049 --> 00:37:51,609
in the vast majority of what we're

1030
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:55,059
seeing in video or pictures I mean the

1031
00:37:57,809 --> 00:37:56,410
older pictures you can't trust any of

1032
00:38:00,859 --> 00:37:57,819
those now an even video is very tough

1033
00:38:03,779 --> 00:38:00,869
these days obviously we get in there and

1034
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:03,789
and that but I think one or two things

1035
00:38:08,099 --> 00:38:05,410
number one you're looking at propulsion

1036
00:38:10,049 --> 00:38:08,109
systems probably you know black you know

1037
00:38:12,630 --> 00:38:10,059
we something other than rocket

1038
00:38:14,370 --> 00:38:12,640
technology and two there's very good

1039
00:38:16,079 --> 00:38:14,380
possibility that maybe you're looking at

1040
00:38:18,299 --> 00:38:16,089
traditional drones that are using

1041
00:38:22,140 --> 00:38:18,309
holographic technology you know we have

1042
00:38:23,430 --> 00:38:22,150
I don't know that well uh I'm just

1043
00:38:25,380 --> 00:38:23,440
saying it's a lot it would be a lot

1044
00:38:28,289 --> 00:38:25,390
easier to have an aerial hologram of a

1045
00:38:29,910 --> 00:38:28,299
pulsing dot or something like that you

1046
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:29,920
know don't it wouldn't cause like

1047
00:38:32,819 --> 00:38:31,690
there's the serious problems with

1048
00:38:34,949 --> 00:38:32,829
Holograms you can't really have a

1049
00:38:37,859 --> 00:38:34,959
clearer hologram that appears darker

1050
00:38:40,529 --> 00:38:37,869
than the sky around it because ooh all

1051
00:38:43,739 --> 00:38:40,539
you can do is like emit light the only

1052
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:43,749
clear Holograms are on video though I'm

1053
00:38:46,319 --> 00:38:45,130
not talking about the ones we're talking

1054
00:38:47,969 --> 00:38:46,329
about they're chasing and getting them

1055
00:38:50,249 --> 00:38:47,979
on radar I'm talking about somebody

1056
00:38:51,539 --> 00:38:50,259
throws up their their camera and you

1057
00:38:53,999 --> 00:38:51,549
know it's it's basically a light

1058
00:38:55,559 --> 00:38:54,009
emission you know oh it's a light in the

1059
00:38:57,089 --> 00:38:55,569
sky that's one thing oh that's just a

1060
00:38:58,949 --> 00:38:57,099
light in the sky but if you can actually

1061
00:39:00,390 --> 00:38:58,959
see a shape or something especially if

1062
00:39:01,769 --> 00:39:00,400
it appears dark that's impossible for it

1063
00:39:04,949 --> 00:39:01,779
to be a hologram because you can't

1064
00:39:07,709 --> 00:39:04,959
actually project darkness into things

1065
00:39:09,479 --> 00:39:07,719
you can't project something into a spot

1066
00:39:10,979 --> 00:39:09,489
in the sky it's not enough projecting

1067
00:39:12,749 --> 00:39:10,989
light into into the sky you have to

1068
00:39:14,279 --> 00:39:12,759
either projected onto something or they

1069
00:39:17,549 --> 00:39:14,289
had this one technique whether they use

1070
00:39:19,410 --> 00:39:17,559
these kind of plasma lasers to make

1071
00:39:20,609 --> 00:39:19,420
little dots like a spark in the sky but

1072
00:39:23,329 --> 00:39:20,619
that doesn't doesn't work on a large

1073
00:39:25,650 --> 00:39:23,339
scale because it would be incredibly hot

1074
00:39:27,180 --> 00:39:25,660
but I don't think Holograms are a

1075
00:39:28,199 --> 00:39:27,190
palette thing and Holograms I think I

1076
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:28,209
think one of those things that people

1077
00:39:33,890 --> 00:39:30,729
bring up without really understanding

1078
00:39:36,390 --> 00:39:33,900
how the optics and physics actually work

1079
00:39:37,979 --> 00:39:36,400
people think because he say it on TV you

1080
00:39:40,499 --> 00:39:37,989
know Holograms will just project a giant

1081
00:39:42,599 --> 00:39:40,509
hologram onto the sky or whatever I'm

1082
00:39:44,549 --> 00:39:42,609
talking about an aerial vehicle a small

1083
00:39:45,390 --> 00:39:44,559
one that's projecting a hologram around

1084
00:39:46,559 --> 00:39:45,400
it you don't think that would be

1085
00:39:51,809 --> 00:39:46,569
physically possible huh

1086
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:51,819
no absolutely not it's it all it could

1087
00:39:55,170 --> 00:39:53,650
do is perhaps like shine some bright

1088
00:39:56,969 --> 00:39:55,180
lights around it but you can't project

1089
00:39:58,559 --> 00:39:56,979
something around you because there's

1090
00:39:59,819 --> 00:39:58,569
nothing to project it onto you've just

1091
00:40:01,079 --> 00:39:59,829
got the air around you especially when

1092
00:40:01,590 --> 00:40:01,089
it's high yet when the air is very very

1093
00:40:03,540 --> 00:40:01,600
thin

1094
00:40:05,700 --> 00:40:03,550
if it's flying through a cloud then yeah

1095
00:40:07,020 --> 00:40:05,710
you could you could do something but you

1096
00:40:09,210 --> 00:40:07,030
know you couldn't actually there's no

1097
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:09,220
such thing as like close you don't think

1098
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:11,410
a technology and and you know this is a

1099
00:40:15,810 --> 00:40:13,210
big conspiracy theory out there and I'll

1100
00:40:18,630 --> 00:40:15,820
tell you what I've tried to find this

1101
00:40:20,970 --> 00:40:18,640
lecture by this journalist I think it's

1102
00:40:22,830 --> 00:40:20,980
at a Canadian university about project

1103
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:22,840
blue blue beam right everybody drives up

1104
00:40:28,050 --> 00:40:25,510
beam and you know voice of God

1105
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:28,060
technology this type of thing and I you

1106
00:40:31,830 --> 00:40:29,890
know I've always somebody I don't really

1107
00:40:34,350 --> 00:40:31,840
talk about much because I haven't been

1108
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:34,360
able to validate it whatsoever I'd love

1109
00:40:38,490 --> 00:40:36,610
to get this lecture or any kind of

1110
00:40:39,900 --> 00:40:38,500
government document that mentions

1111
00:40:41,670 --> 00:40:39,910
anything like this but I haven't felt

1112
00:40:43,260 --> 00:40:41,680
what I'm sure you haven't know Project

1113
00:40:46,710 --> 00:40:43,270
Blue Beam is the idea that there's going

1114
00:40:49,950 --> 00:40:46,720
to be like a fake either alien invasion

1115
00:40:53,580 --> 00:40:49,960
or yeah visit any God or something and

1116
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:53,590
as a trick to bring about the New World

1117
00:40:59,700 --> 00:40:57,610
Order sure but it's its technological

1118
00:41:01,560 --> 00:40:59,710
[\h__\h] basically like for the reasons

1119
00:41:03,030 --> 00:41:01,570
I mentioned before that you can't

1120
00:41:05,430 --> 00:41:03,040
actually project anything other than

1121
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:05,440
light so you can't project a hologram

1122
00:41:13,410 --> 00:41:11,530
onto the sky when you see Holograms you

1123
00:41:14,820 --> 00:41:13,420
know in holographic displays they're in

1124
00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:14,830
a mall or something they're always like

1125
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:16,480
projected onto something often is

1126
00:41:21,630 --> 00:41:18,610
something like it's just a simple angled

1127
00:41:24,780 --> 00:41:21,640
screen and the the actual hologram is

1128
00:41:26,610 --> 00:41:24,790
projected from below or it's projected

1129
00:41:29,970 --> 00:41:26,620
into something like misty air or

1130
00:41:31,950 --> 00:41:29,980
something like that there's a or it's a

1131
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:31,960
spinning spinning thing and it's timed

1132
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:32,890
with the spinning thing but there's

1133
00:41:36,780 --> 00:41:34,690
actually has to be something there you

1134
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:36,790
can't protect something onto the onto

1135
00:41:39,770 --> 00:41:37,210
the air

1136
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:39,780
now you could maybe do like you know

1137
00:41:43,590 --> 00:41:41,770
loudspeakers everywhere and have the

1138
00:41:48,780 --> 00:41:43,600
voice of God come down and say everyone

1139
00:41:50,610 --> 00:41:48,790
get into the FEMA camps but I'm

1140
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:50,620
interested on your take I know that the

1141
00:41:55,890 --> 00:41:52,510
Star Wars program is said to have failed

1142
00:41:57,420 --> 00:41:55,900
well let's say let's say it didn't let's

1143
00:42:00,480 --> 00:41:57,430
say that you had something that could

1144
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:00,490
project from space and now whether that

1145
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:02,290
would be inside of our atmosphere or not

1146
00:42:07,350 --> 00:42:04,690
and downward obviously we have satellite

1147
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:07,360
technology and those type of waves you

1148
00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:08,770
think that sound waves just wouldn't be

1149
00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:11,350
plausible sound waves you couldn't

1150
00:42:14,309 --> 00:42:12,910
project from space because they need

1151
00:42:15,929 --> 00:42:14,319
they need air

1152
00:42:18,689 --> 00:42:15,939
to get through you would have to do

1153
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:18,699
something kind of microwave modulation

1154
00:42:22,679 --> 00:42:21,130
of the atmosphere which would be take an

1155
00:42:24,209 --> 00:42:22,689
incredible amount of energy and would be

1156
00:42:26,909 --> 00:42:24,219
completely infeasible to do from space

1157
00:42:28,799 --> 00:42:26,919
you had to basically set up a sequence

1158
00:42:30,689 --> 00:42:28,809
of atomic explosions timed with the

1159
00:42:33,150 --> 00:42:30,699
sound waves or something like that

1160
00:42:35,519 --> 00:42:33,160
people talk about like HAARP I don't if

1161
00:42:37,199 --> 00:42:35,529
you're familiar with HAARP or another

1162
00:42:40,229 --> 00:42:37,209
kind of conspiracy theory type thing and

1163
00:42:42,299 --> 00:42:40,239
that that can actually modify a very

1164
00:42:44,579 --> 00:42:42,309
small region a relatively small region

1165
00:42:46,289 --> 00:42:44,589
of the atmosphere but it's actually the

1166
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:46,299
atmosphere you talk about the atmosphere

1167
00:42:50,759 --> 00:42:48,130
and you think about the air you know in

1168
00:42:52,890 --> 00:42:50,769
front of you but what HAARP does is it

1169
00:42:54,900 --> 00:42:52,900
modifies a region of space essentially

1170
00:42:56,429 --> 00:42:54,910
like a hundred miles up where there's

1171
00:42:59,069 --> 00:42:56,439
almost no air is like you know one

1172
00:43:01,049 --> 00:42:59,079
molecule per square foot or something

1173
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:01,059
like that and it's mostly free electrons

1174
00:43:04,229 --> 00:43:02,410
because of the bombardment of the Sun

1175
00:43:05,909 --> 00:43:04,239
it's just completely different to what

1176
00:43:07,890 --> 00:43:05,919
people's idea is people think you know

1177
00:43:10,409 --> 00:43:07,900
you're modulating the atmosphere but

1178
00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:10,419
it's really not doing anything that can

1179
00:43:13,650 --> 00:43:12,640
affect things at ground level and it's

1180
00:43:14,789 --> 00:43:13,660
the same thing with like space

1181
00:43:17,429 --> 00:43:14,799
projectors they couldn't do anything

1182
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:17,439
that would affect things ground level

1183
00:43:22,739 --> 00:43:19,689
like this the blue sky isn't like this

1184
00:43:24,539 --> 00:43:22,749
blue screen above us it's miles and

1185
00:43:26,219 --> 00:43:24,549
miles and miles of increasingly thinner

1186
00:43:27,749 --> 00:43:26,229
air so if you shine a beam into it

1187
00:43:29,489 --> 00:43:27,759
you're just gonna get a beam you're not

1188
00:43:31,979 --> 00:43:29,499
gonna get an actual projection unless

1189
00:43:35,519 --> 00:43:31,989
you do it on my cloud so yeah I think

1190
00:43:37,199 --> 00:43:35,529
the Project Blue Beam is there's

1191
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:37,209
complete nonsense basically and it's an

1192
00:43:41,489 --> 00:43:39,609
interesting kind of almost like a

1193
00:43:44,099 --> 00:43:41,499
science fiction fantasy like it's

1194
00:43:45,899 --> 00:43:44,109
entertaining to to think about it but is

1195
00:43:49,409 --> 00:43:45,909
there's no way it's physically possible

1196
00:43:51,870 --> 00:43:49,419
at all but I would say this you know

1197
00:43:53,249 --> 00:43:51,880
science fiction I mean there's a lot of

1198
00:43:54,749 --> 00:43:53,259
things for instance that you would have

1199
00:43:56,009 --> 00:43:54,759
said as science fiction never come to

1200
00:43:57,689 --> 00:43:56,019
reality unless I think there's a good

1201
00:44:00,149 --> 00:43:57,699
segue into the deep fake thing right

1202
00:44:02,839 --> 00:44:00,159
i I've looked at this forever you know

1203
00:44:06,179 --> 00:44:02,849
just because I went to school for

1204
00:44:07,469 --> 00:44:06,189
graphics editing 3d modeling and even

1205
00:44:08,909 --> 00:44:07,479
you know back then what they could do

1206
00:44:10,019 --> 00:44:08,919
with Forrest Gump when I was a kid I was

1207
00:44:12,390 --> 00:44:10,029
like wow this is pretty cool you know

1208
00:44:15,870 --> 00:44:12,400
and and obviously it was very intensive

1209
00:44:17,699 --> 00:44:15,880
now I mean I just posted something that

1210
00:44:20,849 --> 00:44:17,709
somebody did from 2001 a Space Odyssey

1211
00:44:23,279 --> 00:44:20,859
with great shading and shadows and Elon

1212
00:44:25,219 --> 00:44:23,289
Musk is the main character and it looks

1213
00:44:27,830 --> 00:44:25,229
like husking it's done

1214
00:44:30,530 --> 00:44:27,840
and the first

1215
00:44:32,060 --> 00:44:30,540
thing that clicks in my brain is the

1216
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:32,070
running man I don't know how I don't

1217
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:34,530
know if you remember that film by yeah

1218
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:36,240
yeah the very beginning is Swartz and

1219
00:44:39,770 --> 00:44:38,130
Eggers character not wanting to kill a

1220
00:44:42,740 --> 00:44:39,780
bunch of people on the streets I think

1221
00:44:44,210 --> 00:44:42,750
of Los Angeles who want food and his

1222
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:44,220
superiors telling him to do it and he

1223
00:44:47,690 --> 00:44:46,410
fights it off they stop it they kill

1224
00:44:49,610 --> 00:44:47,700
those people and then they blame it on

1225
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:49,620
him and then they put video of him doing

1226
00:44:53,930 --> 00:44:52,050
it out which is faked and then later

1227
00:44:56,060 --> 00:44:53,940
they show the same real-time technology

1228
00:44:57,860 --> 00:44:56,070
when Jesse Ventura is character is

1229
00:44:59,570 --> 00:44:57,870
supposedly in a cage with him and he

1230
00:45:02,060 --> 00:44:59,580
kills him and it's really another person

1231
00:45:04,430 --> 00:45:02,070
I think at this point that real-time

1232
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:04,440
technology is is somewhere pretty much

1233
00:45:12,890 --> 00:45:08,970
in the near future so you know and we

1234
00:45:15,350 --> 00:45:12,900
have the audio stuff when when do we

1235
00:45:16,250 --> 00:45:15,360
stop trusting what's out there like for

1236
00:45:19,130 --> 00:45:16,260
instance do you think there's a

1237
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:19,140
possibility that any of those bin Laden

1238
00:45:24,830 --> 00:45:21,210
videos might have you been using you

1239
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:24,840
know a very I would say primitive type

1240
00:45:28,580 --> 00:45:26,730
of this technology just the editing base

1241
00:45:30,410 --> 00:45:28,590
is that even a possibility it seems

1242
00:45:32,060 --> 00:45:30,420
unlikely to me just based on the level

1243
00:45:34,430 --> 00:45:32,070
of technology back then like the way

1244
00:45:38,540 --> 00:45:34,440
it's done now is it's essentially like

1245
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:38,550
these large AI is running on like quite

1246
00:45:44,210 --> 00:45:42,480
often on multi-core servers people need

1247
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:44,220
it at home now there but yeah they have

1248
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:45,570
to like you know train it overnight and

1249
00:45:48,620 --> 00:45:47,130
stuff and you can still kind of still

1250
00:45:50,150 --> 00:45:48,630
kind of looks kind of iffy but if you

1251
00:45:52,220 --> 00:45:50,160
use more computers it gets better but

1252
00:45:53,990 --> 00:45:52,230
back then I don't really think that they

1253
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:54,000
had the technology certainly nothing

1254
00:45:57,260 --> 00:45:55,890
that I was aware of you can you can

1255
00:45:58,190 --> 00:45:57,270
always speculate and say oh you had the

1256
00:46:00,500 --> 00:45:58,200
government to these almost ten years

1257
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:00,510
ahead but you didn't generally they're

1258
00:46:04,220 --> 00:46:02,850
not ten years ahead in things like this

1259
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:04,230
when it comes to things like you know

1260
00:46:09,140 --> 00:46:06,690
faking graphics and whatnot all that

1261
00:46:11,270 --> 00:46:09,150
research is done in in universities you

1262
00:46:12,950 --> 00:46:11,280
know the stuff comes out of people's PhD

1263
00:46:15,260 --> 00:46:12,960
theses and things like that which is all

1264
00:46:17,780 --> 00:46:15,270
kind of public stuff and it's all work

1265
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:17,790
that's done in the public and it's it's

1266
00:46:21,980 --> 00:46:19,530
impossible to say that it it wouldn't

1267
00:46:24,350 --> 00:46:21,990
have happened but I see no indication

1268
00:46:26,660 --> 00:46:24,360
that it happened but I think you say

1269
00:46:27,980 --> 00:46:26,670
when when should we stop trusting what

1270
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:27,990
we see I think you know we should stop

1271
00:46:33,050 --> 00:46:30,690
trusting it now you see some picture

1272
00:46:35,660 --> 00:46:33,060
somebody talking about something on TV

1273
00:46:37,700 --> 00:46:35,670
it could be fake people are gonna start

1274
00:46:40,580 --> 00:46:37,710
you know he's gonna be very common soon

1275
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:40,590
for people to be making revenge porn

1276
00:46:43,870 --> 00:46:41,810
type thing

1277
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:43,880
with deep faking people space yeah yeah

1278
00:46:47,170 --> 00:46:45,410
so it's already happening so it's just

1279
00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:47,180
gonna be more and more common people are

1280
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:48,560
probably going to do it with me and you

1281
00:46:55,330 --> 00:46:52,570
at some point not together hopefully

1282
00:46:59,260 --> 00:46:55,340
another conversation this is what

1283
00:47:00,970 --> 00:46:59,270
happened the cameras turned off I find

1284
00:47:02,830 --> 00:47:00,980
that interesting and one of the things

1285
00:47:05,770 --> 00:47:02,840
that this kind of shoots off too to me

1286
00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:05,780
is quantum computing right I'd love to

1287
00:47:10,030 --> 00:47:07,520
get your take on that because now we're

1288
00:47:12,430 --> 00:47:10,040
being told I mean and I'd like to get

1289
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:12,440
your take on what's being pushed I would

1290
00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:14,690
say by the mainstream you know all this

1291
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:16,910
time we've been living in base reality

1292
00:47:20,890 --> 00:47:19,730
and now people like Elon Musk are

1293
00:47:24,340 --> 00:47:20,900
promoting that we're in a simulation

1294
00:47:26,380 --> 00:47:24,350
right um that Rogen had somebody else on

1295
00:47:28,030 --> 00:47:26,390
that I don't believe that and the other

1296
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:28,040
thing that's being promoted not only by

1297
00:47:33,130 --> 00:47:30,410
Google and Microsoft and IBM and I

1298
00:47:34,750 --> 00:47:33,140
assume NASA who's working with Google in

1299
00:47:37,690 --> 00:47:34,760
a lot of these quantum realms is that

1300
00:47:39,790 --> 00:47:37,700
the multiverse is real and somehow you

1301
00:47:42,070 --> 00:47:39,800
and I are doing these things an infinite

1302
00:47:44,680 --> 00:47:42,080
amount of times infinite ways and

1303
00:47:47,560 --> 00:47:44,690
sometimes even transcending our physical

1304
00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:47,570
appearance and to me number one that's

1305
00:47:52,510 --> 00:47:49,910
not a reality but I don't know hey I'm

1306
00:47:53,950 --> 00:47:52,520
not God they say they're tapping into

1307
00:47:55,660 --> 00:47:53,960
this you know somehow for the

1308
00:47:58,270 --> 00:47:55,670
superpositions and I forget what the

1309
00:48:00,280 --> 00:47:58,280
other quantum thing that they're talking

1310
00:48:01,540 --> 00:48:00,290
about is but what is your view on all

1311
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:01,550
this you know before we get to the

1312
00:48:05,410 --> 00:48:02,930
singularity because I don't think we can

1313
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:05,420
upload consciousness even that is a lot

1314
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:06,890
of topics this is you know something

1315
00:48:11,109 --> 00:48:08,770
that Joe Rogan likes to talk about a lot

1316
00:48:13,450 --> 00:48:11,119
because they're the side of you people

1317
00:48:19,750 --> 00:48:13,460
don't get to see you know they they see

1318
00:48:23,980 --> 00:48:19,760
the snarky debunker and 144 character ya

1319
00:48:25,690 --> 00:48:23,990
know it's a fascinating topic why are we

1320
00:48:27,400 --> 00:48:25,700
living in a simulation I think you know

1321
00:48:28,750 --> 00:48:27,410
I always kind of considered kind of

1322
00:48:30,490 --> 00:48:28,760
irrelevant if you can't do anything

1323
00:48:31,810 --> 00:48:30,500
about it then it doesn't really matter

1324
00:48:33,700 --> 00:48:31,820
if you're living in a simulation or not

1325
00:48:36,099 --> 00:48:33,710
all you can do is you can look at what

1326
00:48:37,450 --> 00:48:36,109
the laws of physics are and dive deeper

1327
00:48:38,980 --> 00:48:37,460
you know say what's going on with these

1328
00:48:40,420 --> 00:48:38,990
subatomic particles what's going on with

1329
00:48:42,220 --> 00:48:40,430
quark so what's going on with like

1330
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:42,230
photon entanglement and stuff like that

1331
00:48:45,910 --> 00:48:43,850
why does that work it looks really weird

1332
00:48:47,230 --> 00:48:45,920
and you look at the universe and you

1333
00:48:48,700 --> 00:48:47,240
think it's just like you know solid

1334
00:48:50,260 --> 00:48:48,710
objects moving around bumping into each

1335
00:48:52,060 --> 00:48:50,270
other and but then you look really deep

1336
00:48:53,650 --> 00:48:52,070
it's completely different to that it's

1337
00:48:55,180 --> 00:48:53,660
cysts and then you look really very

1338
00:48:58,180 --> 00:48:55,190
deeper the quantum level and

1339
00:49:01,780 --> 00:48:58,190
it's bizarre inexplicable and I think

1340
00:49:03,310 --> 00:49:01,790
quantum computers are very interesting

1341
00:49:05,530 --> 00:49:03,320
because the certain things that

1342
00:49:08,380 --> 00:49:05,540
consequent quantum computers can

1343
00:49:10,330 --> 00:49:08,390
theoretically do like make them break

1344
00:49:12,310 --> 00:49:10,340
encryption they can pretty much break

1345
00:49:14,860 --> 00:49:12,320
any encryption out there like there's

1346
00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:14,870
there's if the theoretical thing pans

1347
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:18,530
out then the public key cryptography

1348
00:49:23,220 --> 00:49:21,530
system that's based on factoring the

1349
00:49:25,810 --> 00:49:23,230
products of very large prime numbers

1350
00:49:28,990 --> 00:49:25,820
could be cracked you know in an instant

1351
00:49:31,090 --> 00:49:29,000
by an appropriate quantum computer but

1352
00:49:33,310 --> 00:49:31,100
no one's really got quantum computers to

1353
00:49:35,890 --> 00:49:33,320
do very much recently they're not

1354
00:49:37,420 --> 00:49:35,900
exactly powerful because you can

1355
00:49:39,730 --> 00:49:37,430
actually simulate a contra quantum

1356
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:39,740
computer way way easier than actually

1357
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:41,330
building a quantum computer thing and

1358
00:49:44,740 --> 00:49:42,530
they have these things called qubits

1359
00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:44,750
which is the basic units of quantum

1360
00:49:49,810 --> 00:49:46,910
computers and I can't remember how much

1361
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:49,820
the the number of bits is in a quantum

1362
00:49:53,950 --> 00:49:52,010
computer now but it's you know it's not

1363
00:49:55,180 --> 00:49:53,960
very many he's like a handful well

1364
00:49:57,190 --> 00:49:55,190
there's two different types there's the

1365
00:50:00,310 --> 00:49:57,200
ones that are using quantum annealing

1366
00:50:02,140 --> 00:50:00,320
and that's the d-wave machines and

1367
00:50:04,630 --> 00:50:02,150
that's the nasa project but then you

1368
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:04,640
have these new ones and i think there's

1369
00:50:09,550 --> 00:50:07,250
somewhere in the 72 qubit range was the

1370
00:50:11,050 --> 00:50:09,560
last thing I was reading and you know

1371
00:50:12,970 --> 00:50:11,060
Hartman I can't remember what his last

1372
00:50:14,500 --> 00:50:12,980
name is but I find this stuff super

1373
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:14,510
interesting because like you you know I

1374
00:50:18,190 --> 00:50:16,250
think that a I think a lot of people are

1375
00:50:20,530 --> 00:50:18,200
banking on crypto currencies to some

1376
00:50:22,870 --> 00:50:20,540
kind of pan out and there could be

1377
00:50:25,870 --> 00:50:22,880
problems telling them man it's a

1378
00:50:28,690 --> 00:50:25,880
computer it's it's ones and zeros people

1379
00:50:30,970 --> 00:50:28,700
figure things out you know the X Box

1380
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:30,980
gets hacked the ps3 gets hacked you know

1381
00:50:35,500 --> 00:50:34,010
the ps4 has been hacked so the idea that

1382
00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:35,510
they're gonna be able to create a

1383
00:50:40,030 --> 00:50:38,240
unhackable algorithm we don't know where

1384
00:50:43,900 --> 00:50:40,040
where these things are going in the next

1385
00:50:46,660 --> 00:50:43,910
20 or 30 years and personally you know I

1386
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:46,670
feel like first of all I'm not in love

1387
00:50:50,950 --> 00:50:49,010
with a cashless society you know I think

1388
00:50:53,050 --> 00:50:50,960
that's very very dangerous you know that

1389
00:50:55,630 --> 00:50:53,060
UPS the track trace database society

1390
00:50:57,880 --> 00:50:55,640
that to me I mean we're already there

1391
00:51:00,670 --> 00:50:57,890
right people are just buying smart

1392
00:51:02,620 --> 00:51:00,680
devices like hey I like an Xbox it's the

1393
00:51:04,420 --> 00:51:02,630
one thing on that I'm not willing to

1394
00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:04,430
give up that has a microphone that's

1395
00:51:10,269 --> 00:51:07,599
ready because you at the end of

1396
00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:10,279
was it now invisible animus you say

1397
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:15,650
throw away our X books I think I think

1398
00:51:19,720 --> 00:51:17,450
there's a time for everything right like

1399
00:51:22,059 --> 00:51:19,730
I I bought Borderlands 3 it's the first

1400
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:22,069
video I'm I skip MK 11 and I got

1401
00:51:26,380 --> 00:51:24,890
Borderlands 3 and I think I got it on

1402
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:26,390
opening day I forget what day it came

1403
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:28,250
out it's gotta be like ten ten days ago

1404
00:51:33,430 --> 00:51:30,170
most of the people I know that are

1405
00:51:36,220 --> 00:51:33,440
serious about they put 40 80 120 hours

1406
00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:36,230
into this thing I got like seven you

1407
00:51:41,559 --> 00:51:38,480
know I got like seven hours to do it

1408
00:51:42,970 --> 00:51:41,569
I you know I like my downtime I like

1409
00:51:44,559 --> 00:51:42,980
sitting there playing a video game for

1410
00:51:46,359 --> 00:51:44,569
an hour maybe and getting I tried to

1411
00:51:48,190 --> 00:51:46,369
stream it on my channel couldn't do it

1412
00:51:50,170 --> 00:51:48,200
you know I just it doesn't interest me

1413
00:51:51,609 --> 00:51:50,180
to interact that way this is my time

1414
00:51:54,190 --> 00:51:51,619
either that or sit down and watch some

1415
00:51:56,230 --> 00:51:54,200
American Pickers maybe some UFC I think

1416
00:51:57,789 --> 00:51:56,240
you have to have that Mick and I think

1417
00:52:01,000 --> 00:51:57,799
that you know one of the things I like

1418
00:52:02,799 --> 00:52:01,010
about you is that you do seem to pull

1419
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:02,809
some people back from the edge of

1420
00:52:07,359 --> 00:52:05,450
ridiculous like the queue thing I mean

1421
00:52:09,700 --> 00:52:07,369
that was just insanity and that it's

1422
00:52:11,410 --> 00:52:09,710
still thriving is insane to me and the

1423
00:52:13,870 --> 00:52:11,420
amount of money grifters on that is very

1424
00:52:15,130 --> 00:52:13,880
upsetting to me I didn't even understand

1425
00:52:18,759 --> 00:52:15,140
how people could believe that

1426
00:52:22,329 --> 00:52:18,769
you know like mad boards and superheroes

1427
00:52:24,339 --> 00:52:22,339
behind the scenes it's listen people

1428
00:52:26,529 --> 00:52:24,349
want to believe that things are gonna

1429
00:52:28,779 --> 00:52:26,539
get better and that they don't have to

1430
00:52:31,269 --> 00:52:28,789
do anything for it and I think that's a

1431
00:52:33,220 --> 00:52:31,279
big problem with today at least to me

1432
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:33,230
you know when I was stomping my feet

1433
00:52:37,420 --> 00:52:35,450
about 9/11 there was still an anti-war

1434
00:52:39,309 --> 00:52:37,430
movement you know code pink was still

1435
00:52:41,890 --> 00:52:39,319
getting coverage cindy sheehan was out

1436
00:52:43,269 --> 00:52:41,900
there you know the Ray McGovern was just

1437
00:52:45,759 --> 00:52:43,279
getting going we had people in the

1438
00:52:48,460 --> 00:52:45,769
streets right now we're in more nations

1439
00:52:49,799 --> 00:52:48,470
than any other time in the world you

1440
00:52:55,150 --> 00:52:49,809
know we could talk about Afghanistan

1441
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:55,160
Iraq Syria Somalia Sudan Libya people

1442
00:52:57,549 --> 00:52:56,450
don't even know we're involved in those

1443
00:53:00,519 --> 00:52:57,559
nations you know whether they're just

1444
00:53:03,279 --> 00:53:00,529
you know drone targets like in Yemen and

1445
00:53:04,870 --> 00:53:03,289
our and our weapons or ground troops no

1446
00:53:07,779 --> 00:53:04,880
one seems to be upset we're on the cusp

1447
00:53:10,059 --> 00:53:07,789
of a real conflict with the nation with

1448
00:53:12,730 --> 00:53:10,069
eighty million people and a real

1449
00:53:15,099 --> 00:53:12,740
military that Russia is not just gonna

1450
00:53:16,930 --> 00:53:15,109
let us go into right who knows where

1451
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:16,940
that leads it's an interesting situation

1452
00:53:22,990 --> 00:53:20,690
and seems dangerous to me no one cares

1453
00:53:25,839 --> 00:53:23,000
man I mean that none of these are hot

1454
00:53:28,690 --> 00:53:25,849
topics in the mainstream media on any of

1455
00:53:31,510 --> 00:53:28,700
the talk shows or in the street it's all

1456
00:53:33,940 --> 00:53:31,520
identity politics and how to separate us

1457
00:53:37,900 --> 00:53:33,950
it's you know even the alternative

1458
00:53:40,450 --> 00:53:37,910
it's an Tifa this or you know proud

1459
00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:40,460
proud boys that and there's just such a

1460
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:43,730
marginal group and I think they show

1461
00:53:47,079 --> 00:53:45,290
kind of the worst of everything they

1462
00:53:48,250 --> 00:53:47,089
want battle they want conflict they

1463
00:53:51,010 --> 00:53:48,260
don't want people to come together and

1464
00:53:54,430 --> 00:53:51,020
be anti-war and ask questions and to me

1465
00:53:56,349 --> 00:53:54,440
that's troubling man let me ask you a

1466
00:53:58,839 --> 00:53:56,359
question like you talk a lot about like

1467
00:54:00,430 --> 00:53:58,849
the problems with the world as you see

1468
00:54:03,700 --> 00:54:00,440
them you did a lot of research into what

1469
00:54:06,930 --> 00:54:03,710
what these problems are how would you

1470
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:06,940
picture a better world an ideal world

1471
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:09,530
sure I mean all right so first you start

1472
00:54:14,290 --> 00:54:11,690
at home right I always tell people start

1473
00:54:16,450 --> 00:54:14,300
locally you know you can go and you can

1474
00:54:18,250 --> 00:54:16,460
run for local mayor you know state

1475
00:54:20,290 --> 00:54:18,260
senator is not out of some people's

1476
00:54:21,849 --> 00:54:20,300
reach you know you have to start locally

1477
00:54:23,950 --> 00:54:21,859
but if we were gonna talk about a

1478
00:54:25,059 --> 00:54:23,960
national level especially since we I

1479
00:54:26,650 --> 00:54:25,069
think we can agree that the United

1480
00:54:29,770 --> 00:54:26,660
States is the world's superpower right

1481
00:54:33,309 --> 00:54:29,780
sure I think we I think we took a very

1482
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:33,319
very big turn for the worst on two

1483
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:35,810
occasions one when we create a national

1484
00:54:40,930 --> 00:54:38,930
security state where now the people

1485
00:54:42,370 --> 00:54:40,940
don't really get to find things out

1486
00:54:44,859 --> 00:54:42,380
anymore and it's up to the Fourth Estate

1487
00:54:46,750 --> 00:54:44,869
to dig-dig-dig and we no longer really

1488
00:54:48,970 --> 00:54:46,760
have a judicial executive and

1489
00:54:51,700 --> 00:54:48,980
legislative branch that are checks and

1490
00:54:54,700 --> 00:54:51,710
balances right at some level the checks

1491
00:54:56,380 --> 00:54:54,710
stopped right whether that's a you know

1492
00:54:58,240 --> 00:54:56,390
well beyond a presidential level that's

1493
00:55:00,790 --> 00:54:58,250
a huge issue and that's post-world War

1494
00:55:04,059 --> 00:55:00,800
two that's the atomic era in fact Annie

1495
00:55:06,490 --> 00:55:04,069
Jacobsen talks about how area 51 was a

1496
00:55:09,130 --> 00:55:06,500
big pissing contest between the military

1497
00:55:10,690 --> 00:55:09,140
and the CIA as to who was really gonna

1498
00:55:12,490 --> 00:55:10,700
run this thing you know what I mean and

1499
00:55:13,990 --> 00:55:12,500
kind of born out of the CIA was interest

1500
00:55:16,300 --> 00:55:14,000
it's a really interesting read very

1501
00:55:19,420 --> 00:55:16,310
dense and the second thing that really

1502
00:55:22,569 --> 00:55:19,430
screwed us was allowing lobbying in

1503
00:55:25,450 --> 00:55:22,579
politics the idea that we can put so

1504
00:55:28,089 --> 00:55:25,460
much money into politics and you can

1505
00:55:30,609 --> 00:55:28,099
have a super PAC or a group on behalf of

1506
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:30,619
this and that not only pay into

1507
00:55:34,690 --> 00:55:32,690
candidates but then after the fact

1508
00:55:38,140 --> 00:55:34,700
promised them a job

1509
00:55:40,330 --> 00:55:38,150
yeah I totally agree with you yes

1510
00:55:42,070 --> 00:55:40,340
biggest things we could do let's roll

1511
00:55:43,810 --> 00:55:42,080
back like for instance it was very

1512
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:43,820
troubling to me there you know one of

1513
00:55:46,630 --> 00:55:45,170
the things again Trump said he was gonna

1514
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:46,640
do you know he's fighting the deep state

1515
00:55:52,030 --> 00:55:49,850
fight that he was that yeah these all

1516
00:55:55,990 --> 00:55:52,040
the JFK documents at this point right

1517
00:55:57,820 --> 00:55:56,000
and on two occasions he failed now in my

1518
00:56:00,400 --> 00:55:57,830
opinion if you can't release those

1519
00:56:02,350 --> 00:56:00,410
documents and obviously I feel those

1520
00:56:05,590 --> 00:56:02,360
have shades of deep state all over them

1521
00:56:08,530 --> 00:56:05,600
if you can't expect from 50-plus years

1522
00:56:11,620 --> 00:56:08,540
ago how in the world are you going to do

1523
00:56:14,530 --> 00:56:11,630
it now and appointments like Bolton and

1524
00:56:16,540 --> 00:56:14,540
Pompeyo and Haspel you know it's great

1525
00:56:19,540 --> 00:56:16,550
Bolton's gone but who's gonna take his

1526
00:56:22,090 --> 00:56:19,550
place just show that that Batman in a

1527
00:56:24,250 --> 00:56:22,100
guy that said he was coming in isn't a

1528
00:56:26,710 --> 00:56:24,260
real one you know you talk about it like

1529
00:56:29,050 --> 00:56:26,720
when you started out it's uh you know

1530
00:56:31,870 --> 00:56:29,060
checks and balances you think like we've

1531
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:31,880
got executive overreach right now sure

1532
00:56:37,150 --> 00:56:35,330
yes but but I would say that House exit

1533
00:56:39,640 --> 00:56:37,160
which goes beyond the president the

1534
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:39,650
United States right it's not just the

1535
00:56:44,620 --> 00:56:41,330
President of the United States it cat

1536
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:44,630
his cabinet it's his you know just about

1537
00:56:50,650 --> 00:56:47,810
everything right now for instance we're

1538
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:50,660
arguing about the Ukraine phone calls

1539
00:56:53,650 --> 00:56:51,770
and whether we're gonna get to be here

1540
00:56:55,150 --> 00:56:53,660
these phone calls and what server the

1541
00:56:58,150 --> 00:56:55,160
transcripts were put on and blah blah

1542
00:57:00,760 --> 00:56:58,160
blah blah blah to me that's all red tape

1543
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:00,770
and and budgets I'm more concerned that

1544
00:57:05,830 --> 00:57:03,170
the President of the United States after

1545
00:57:10,210 --> 00:57:05,840
Congress and Senate says we're leaving

1546
00:57:11,380 --> 00:57:10,220
Yemen right he can just say no veto you

1547
00:57:13,930 --> 00:57:11,390
know what I'm saying we're gonna we're

1548
00:57:14,860 --> 00:57:13,940
not gonna talk about it and in common

1549
00:57:17,710 --> 00:57:14,870
run on

1550
00:57:20,020 --> 00:57:17,720
well who did 9/11 starts hinting towards

1551
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:20,030
the Saudis and one of the first deals he

1552
00:57:25,570 --> 00:57:22,850
cuts is a four hundred plus billion

1553
00:57:28,750 --> 00:57:25,580
dollar arms deal with Saudi Arabia and

1554
00:57:30,220 --> 00:57:28,760
that's an issue with me so that there is

1555
00:57:32,230 --> 00:57:30,230
no oversight on that and don't get me

1556
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:32,240
wrong we used that we used to be able to

1557
00:57:35,590 --> 00:57:33,410
veto those things but then there'd be

1558
00:57:37,270 --> 00:57:35,600
challenges where was the challenge from

1559
00:57:38,530 --> 00:57:37,280
Congress on that or the challenge from

1560
00:57:40,990 --> 00:57:38,540
the Senate no it was into the next

1561
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:41,000
election cycle the next party line

1562
00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:44,810
nonsense and I he's racist he's a Nazi

1563
00:57:48,490 --> 00:57:46,910
like things that I don't believe he is

1564
00:57:51,070 --> 00:57:48,500
doesn't mean I think he's a good

1565
00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:51,080
and Mick you know Mick I think it's very

1566
00:57:54,970 --> 00:57:52,910
obvious you know the guy was three

1567
00:57:56,530 --> 00:57:54,980
things out of the gates before I voted

1568
00:57:58,870 --> 00:57:56,540
for him and I let everybody know because

1569
00:58:00,430 --> 00:57:58,880
you know I'm not Alex Jones I wasn't

1570
00:58:03,310 --> 00:58:00,440
wearing up you know what I'm on the

1571
00:58:04,030 --> 00:58:03,320
Trump change you chewing the guy one is

1572
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:04,040
a gangster

1573
00:58:09,250 --> 00:58:06,890
he created Atlantic City if you believe

1574
00:58:12,339 --> 00:58:09,260
in your heart of hearts that a city

1575
00:58:14,260 --> 00:58:12,349
built around gambling in New Jersey had

1576
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:14,270
nothing to do with organized crime or

1577
00:58:18,820 --> 00:58:15,890
has nothing to do with nice time today

1578
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:18,830
generally a little bit slow okay so

1579
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:20,450
we'll start there number one he's a

1580
00:58:25,450 --> 00:58:22,970
gangster too an obvious womanizer he was

1581
00:58:28,780 --> 00:58:25,460
never shy about it I remember I was

1582
00:58:31,630 --> 00:58:28,790
crazy when I was a kid he owned beauty

1583
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:31,640
pageants like literal beauty pageants he

1584
00:58:37,089 --> 00:58:33,410
was very open about these things so you

1585
00:58:39,609 --> 00:58:37,099
got misogynist you got gangster 3 what

1586
00:58:41,050 --> 00:58:39,619
was his big comeback he's an actor you

1587
00:58:43,450 --> 00:58:41,060
know throughout light and I'm you know

1588
00:58:46,390 --> 00:58:43,460
we're colleges TV at less than 5 years

1589
00:58:48,070 --> 00:58:46,400
even before he got his reality show he

1590
00:58:50,470 --> 00:58:48,080
was all over television I was on the

1591
00:58:52,450 --> 00:58:50,480
talk show circuit he was on you know

1592
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:52,460
things like Inside Edition Entertainment

1593
00:58:55,839 --> 00:58:54,530
Tonight was very act with the camera and

1594
00:58:58,450 --> 00:58:55,849
then when they gave him a reality show

1595
00:59:01,120 --> 00:58:58,460
which we know is far from reality

1596
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:01,130
he got even better at it so you're

1597
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:05,450
already electing a gangster misogynist

1598
00:59:10,210 --> 00:59:07,970
actor who you could not trust that

1599
00:59:12,310 --> 00:59:10,220
should be enough yeah I don't believe

1600
00:59:14,470 --> 00:59:12,320
that he's a racist I don't believe that

1601
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:14,480
he's a Nazi I don't believe all these

1602
00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:15,890
things they're throwing at the wall why

1603
00:59:19,180 --> 00:59:18,050
not be honest with people well I think

1604
00:59:20,650 --> 00:59:19,190
that the reason they don't want to be

1605
00:59:22,540 --> 00:59:20,660
honest with people is because the

1606
00:59:23,980 --> 00:59:22,550
majority of politicians that get in it

1607
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:23,990
you could say almost the same thing

1608
00:59:27,940 --> 00:59:24,530
right

1609
00:59:29,170 --> 00:59:27,950
maybe so yeah yeah we can I coming up in

1610
00:59:30,940 --> 00:59:29,180
an hour it's gonna I want to touch on

1611
00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:30,950
one thing that is just a kind of a

1612
00:59:37,150 --> 00:59:33,200
personal saying like I remember you

1613
00:59:38,470 --> 00:59:37,160
doing this documentary called shade like

1614
00:59:39,300 --> 00:59:38,480
I think about 2010 or something like

1615
00:59:41,829 --> 00:59:39,310
that

1616
00:59:45,339 --> 00:59:41,839
2013 I was doing in 2012 it's like yeah

1617
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:45,349
okay so I remember shade as being a

1618
00:59:51,010 --> 00:59:48,650
chemtrail documentary sure I looked at

1619
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:51,020
the description on it and it's all about

1620
00:59:57,310 --> 00:59:54,650
builders well I would say this I'm not

1621
00:59:58,599 --> 00:59:57,320
sure which which one it's not on my

1622
01:00:00,940 --> 00:59:58,609
channel whoever wrote the description

1623
01:00:02,070 --> 01:00:00,950
that's not [\h__\h] but the first 30 minutes

1624
01:00:03,930 --> 01:00:02,080
is Bilderberg

1625
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:03,940
it's like if it starts at Bilderberg

1626
01:00:08,340 --> 01:00:05,530
2012 on the scene

1627
01:00:11,070 --> 01:00:08,350
it explains Bilderberg I'd say the

1628
01:00:13,110 --> 01:00:11,080
second part is which is the the meet you

1629
01:00:15,330 --> 01:00:13,120
know there's about three three sections

1630
01:00:16,830 --> 01:00:15,340
in it that are large is more I wouldn't

1631
01:00:20,220 --> 01:00:16,840
call them chemtrails because I try not

1632
01:00:22,860 --> 01:00:20,230
to like solar radiation management for

1633
01:00:25,650 --> 01:00:22,870
long jet contrails Rosalind Peterson's

1634
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:25,660
heavy in there and then the last part is

1635
01:00:30,270 --> 01:00:28,210
more eugenics and biotechnology based

1636
01:00:32,670 --> 01:00:30,280
where we kind of run off into gates and

1637
01:00:34,140 --> 01:00:32,680
you know his talks I don't know if they

1638
01:00:35,580 --> 01:00:34,150
were Ted I think one of them was a TED

1639
01:00:38,130 --> 01:00:35,590
talk where he talks about carbon but

1640
01:00:39,840 --> 01:00:38,140
even you know headlines again maybe like

1641
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:39,850
three weeks ago I did a story on it now

1642
01:00:45,260 --> 01:00:42,970
it's not solar radiation management he's

1643
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:45,270
got a new thing called solar radiation

1644
01:00:49,610 --> 01:00:46,930
perturbation I don't know if you've seen

1645
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:49,620
this yet and the models on these are

1646
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:52,810
balloons that are then shooting out

1647
01:00:57,030 --> 01:00:55,330
these these jet trails instead of actual

1648
01:00:59,010 --> 01:00:57,040
bits well yeah some stuff that's

1649
01:01:02,870 --> 01:00:59,020
theoretical of course but well what do

1650
01:01:04,950 --> 01:01:02,880
you know I would say

1651
01:01:06,420 --> 01:01:04,960
well I guess my point though was like

1652
01:01:08,820 --> 01:01:06,430
how's your thinking changed on this like

1653
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:08,830
yet that was like what six years ago

1654
01:01:12,870 --> 01:01:10,690
I've never been one of those guys that

1655
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:12,880
that tells you like their mind-control

1656
01:01:17,940 --> 01:01:16,450
drugs or you know that you know they're

1657
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:17,950
they're controlling us through that or

1658
01:01:21,990 --> 01:01:19,930
there's some other thing I think they've

1659
01:01:23,940 --> 01:01:22,000
been pretty straightforward that they

1660
01:01:26,010 --> 01:01:23,950
think that this is going to help with

1661
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:26,020
global warming that this is going to

1662
01:01:31,230 --> 01:01:29,050
cool the planet and I think it's in test

1663
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:31,240
phases I think that we will find

1664
01:01:34,260 --> 01:01:32,770
documents in the next twenty to thirty

1665
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:34,270
years were they kind first of all I

1666
01:01:37,230 --> 01:01:35,770
think it'll be commonplace in twenty to

1667
01:01:39,300 --> 01:01:37,240
thirty years unfortunately and I don't

1668
01:01:40,890 --> 01:01:39,310
agree with it you know I I do think that

1669
01:01:42,660 --> 01:01:40,900
they're putting the things they say

1670
01:01:44,310 --> 01:01:42,670
they're going to put in there to reflect

1671
01:01:47,370 --> 01:01:44,320
the sunlight period

1672
01:01:50,130 --> 01:01:47,380
I think these programs exist III don't

1673
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:50,140
know how extensive they are I do believe

1674
01:01:55,350 --> 01:01:52,330
them to be on the east and west coasts

1675
01:01:56,550 --> 01:01:55,360
and you know I think the evidence is out

1676
01:01:58,230 --> 01:01:56,560
there I don't think they've been a

1677
01:01:59,850 --> 01:01:58,240
hundred percent honest with us Mick I

1678
01:02:03,270 --> 01:01:59,860
know that sounds crazy but I might see

1679
01:02:07,410 --> 01:02:03,280
yeah but I interviewed David Keith like

1680
01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:07,420
about a month ago and yeah I've talked

1681
01:02:11,250 --> 01:02:09,520
to him before I get that's and he's like

1682
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:11,260
the most famous like geoengineering

1683
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:13,930
proponent out there Shanna he says point

1684
01:02:16,630 --> 01:02:15,050
blank the

1685
01:02:18,790 --> 01:02:16,640
nothing is being done there's not even

1686
01:02:20,500 --> 01:02:18,800
any tests being done as far as and you

1687
01:02:22,420 --> 01:02:20,510
trust the guy though yeah but you say

1688
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:22,430
you think he's lying to me you think I

1689
01:02:27,460 --> 01:02:25,010
don't know that first of all let's say

1690
01:02:29,830 --> 01:02:27,470
let's say he's not lying would he be in

1691
01:02:31,180 --> 01:02:29,840
the position to know if it had a certain

1692
01:02:32,710 --> 01:02:31,190
clearance level let me give you an

1693
01:02:37,270 --> 01:02:32,720
example right so we talked about Annie

1694
01:02:39,550 --> 01:02:37,280
Jacobson and her books in in the area 51

1695
01:02:41,710 --> 01:02:39,560
book right she talks about magic

1696
01:02:43,750 --> 01:02:41,720
clearance actually being real and that's

1697
01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:43,760
kind of like a mystified clearance I've

1698
01:02:47,980 --> 01:02:45,850
never seen any documents that have been

1699
01:02:50,140 --> 01:02:47,990
Declassified that have magic on them you

1700
01:02:51,940 --> 01:02:50,150
know magic eyes only other than the ones

1701
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:51,950
that I don't believe to be real we've

1702
01:02:56,710 --> 01:02:54,290
seen plenty of top-secret etc you know

1703
01:02:58,480 --> 01:02:56,720
is there a possibility that the military

1704
01:02:59,830 --> 01:02:58,490
has a type of clearance like this or

1705
01:03:02,230 --> 01:02:59,840
programs that are so deeply

1706
01:03:04,120 --> 01:03:02,240
compartmentalized where a guy like David

1707
01:03:05,590 --> 01:03:04,130
Keith who's a proponent of it wouldn't

1708
01:03:07,330 --> 01:03:05,600
know he's not just a proponent though

1709
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:07,340
he's the guy who's actually doing the

1710
01:03:12,190 --> 01:03:09,650
experiments he's actually he's running

1711
01:03:13,870 --> 01:03:12,200
the MIT program that's actually put in

1712
01:03:15,940 --> 01:03:13,880
these balloons up in the sky and doing

1713
01:03:18,370 --> 01:03:15,950
it and it would kind of posit you're

1714
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:18,380
suggesting is that all of science is

1715
01:03:22,210 --> 01:03:20,930
running kind of into parallels that's

1716
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:22,220
like science desperately trying to

1717
01:03:25,570 --> 01:03:23,690
figure out geoengineering and they've

1718
01:03:27,190 --> 01:03:25,580
been doing it for decades but then NASA

1719
01:03:29,350 --> 01:03:27,200
go what the government has already

1720
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:29,360
figured it out and I'm saying they may

1721
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:31,970
not let him know what they're doing to

1722
01:03:34,660 --> 01:03:33,290
the extent they're doing it in other

1723
01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:34,670
words he might be working with balloons

1724
01:03:38,980 --> 01:03:36,650
and they're working with jets it's just

1725
01:03:41,410 --> 01:03:38,990
like I I still believe Nick hold on I

1726
01:03:43,390 --> 01:03:41,420
still believe that some of these you

1727
01:03:45,940 --> 01:03:43,400
know a craft that we're seeing are other

1728
01:03:47,530 --> 01:03:45,950
propulsion systems they could be running

1729
01:03:49,810 --> 01:03:47,540
them against their own military on

1730
01:03:51,700 --> 01:03:49,820
purpose let's see how this does against

1731
01:03:54,040 --> 01:03:51,710
a couple f-15s let's see if they can

1732
01:03:55,900 --> 01:03:54,050
catch up let's see the reports I'm sure

1733
01:04:00,010 --> 01:03:55,910
you're familiar with Mirage Minh right

1734
01:04:04,270 --> 01:04:00,020
the film what is that so Mirage Minh is

1735
01:04:06,850 --> 01:04:04,280
a documentary mostly on Richard Doty who

1736
01:04:08,950 --> 01:04:06,860
is you know supposedly this UFO whistle

1737
01:04:11,590 --> 01:04:08,960
alien whistleblower guy Steven Greer

1738
01:04:13,930 --> 01:04:11,600
uses them all the time in him I turn off

1739
01:04:15,220 --> 01:04:13,940
the last documentary I forget if it was

1740
01:04:17,470 --> 01:04:15,230
disclosed i watch the one with the

1741
01:04:20,020 --> 01:04:17,480
little alien body supposedly that was

1742
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:20,030
tough enough serious but the follow the

1743
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:22,010
follow-up was just as soon as I saw him

1744
01:04:25,180 --> 01:04:23,690
using Richard Doty as a source I had to

1745
01:04:28,180 --> 01:04:25,190
turn it off I couldn't do it and I think

1746
01:04:30,460 --> 01:04:28,190
rear is heavily compromised we get in

1747
01:04:32,950 --> 01:04:30,470
another time he's wrong I wouldn't say

1748
01:04:35,740 --> 01:04:32,960
compromise that sure but don't seem self

1749
01:04:37,599 --> 01:04:35,750
it basically bragged about how there was

1750
01:04:39,490 --> 01:04:37,609
a guy who had a business across the

1751
01:04:41,260 --> 01:04:39,500
street very rich man right and he was

1752
01:04:43,390 --> 01:04:41,270
seeing some of their experimental craft

1753
01:04:46,599 --> 01:04:43,400
and he was reporting it to the military

1754
01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:46,609
and he thought it was aliens so they

1755
01:04:51,370 --> 01:04:49,970
sent Doty to kinda bring him along you

1756
01:04:53,829 --> 01:04:51,380
know oh yeah it's aliens we're gonna

1757
01:04:55,210 --> 01:04:53,839
work with you these are he's having

1758
01:04:56,410 --> 01:04:55,220
meetings with other people in the

1759
01:04:59,620 --> 01:04:56,420
military you know he thinks he's playing

1760
01:05:01,870 --> 01:04:59,630
secret agent man with with the military

1761
01:05:04,990 --> 01:05:01,880
and he thinks these things are aliens

1762
01:05:07,359 --> 01:05:05,000
and in reality their government craft

1763
01:05:09,490 --> 01:05:07,369
they bankrupted the guy he went

1764
01:05:10,270 --> 01:05:09,500
completely insane ended up in a mental

1765
01:05:12,339 --> 01:05:10,280
institution

1766
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:12,349
if you haven't seen that documentary I

1767
01:05:17,500 --> 01:05:15,290
would really I feel like in essence

1768
01:05:19,359 --> 01:05:17,510
that's what's happening to Tom DeLonge

1769
01:05:21,940 --> 01:05:19,369
right now I don't trust that Lois

1770
01:05:25,210 --> 01:05:21,950
Elizondo guy I watched 15 minutes of

1771
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:25,220
that the History Channel show and I mean

1772
01:05:30,190 --> 01:05:27,530
I got an Intel dump for you like no you

1773
01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:30,200
have an article that's right here that

1774
01:05:33,190 --> 01:05:31,760
you could send via your phone and say

1775
01:05:35,140 --> 01:05:33,200
hey look what they publish but you wanna

1776
01:05:36,970 --> 01:05:35,150
you want to use language and make him

1777
01:05:38,620 --> 01:05:36,980
feel like he's a secret agent man and

1778
01:05:40,690 --> 01:05:38,630
you guys are gonna reveal aliens to the

1779
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:40,700
world I think that's a very real program

1780
01:05:43,089 --> 01:05:42,410
man I think disinformation goes further

1781
01:05:45,819 --> 01:05:43,099
than you think

1782
01:05:48,220 --> 01:05:45,829
I think that's entertainment though it's

1783
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:48,230
not disinformation Elizondo is yeah

1784
01:05:51,190 --> 01:05:49,970
maybe he believes what he's doing but

1785
01:05:52,780 --> 01:05:51,200
what he's doing on the Discovery Channel

1786
01:05:57,130 --> 01:05:52,790
The History Channel wherever it was

1787
01:05:59,020 --> 01:05:57,140
it's just believes it bro you watch he's

1788
01:06:04,359 --> 01:05:59,030
a little uh I don't know a little

1789
01:06:08,559 --> 01:06:04,369
eccentric eccentric yeah they they

1790
01:06:09,609 --> 01:06:08,569
believe it well lots of people believe

1791
01:06:13,089 --> 01:06:09,619
strange things

1792
01:06:15,069 --> 01:06:13,099
I just just because I want a TAS no it

1793
01:06:16,660 --> 01:06:15,079
hasn't it believes that 9/11 was a

1794
01:06:18,940 --> 01:06:16,670
controlled demolition doesn't mean that

1795
01:06:22,750 --> 01:06:18,950
I think it is what's his name Chuck

1796
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:22,760
Norris believes in chemtrails yeah lots

1797
01:06:25,870 --> 01:06:24,410
of people believe in things it doesn't

1798
01:06:27,609 --> 01:06:25,880
mean doesn't make them true you go to

1799
01:06:29,500 --> 01:06:27,619
actually say what is the actual evidence

1800
01:06:31,030 --> 01:06:29,510
for this I agree but you don't think

1801
01:06:33,400 --> 01:06:31,040
that you know like for instance with

1802
01:06:35,079 --> 01:06:33,410
this to the Stars Academy you don't

1803
01:06:38,500 --> 01:06:35,089
think the long is really being played

1804
01:06:40,839 --> 01:06:38,510
out for his money and his fame oh no I

1805
01:06:41,860 --> 01:06:40,849
think if anything he's playing other

1806
01:06:44,520 --> 01:06:41,870
people he

1807
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:44,530
he's got wants the profiteer from this

1808
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:47,690
sweet deal on that where they actually

1809
01:06:52,450 --> 01:06:50,690
have to pay him like a hundred thousand

1810
01:06:56,050 --> 01:06:52,460
dollars a year or something just you

1811
01:06:58,510 --> 01:06:56,060
know be associated with it and he you

1812
01:07:00,370 --> 01:06:58,520
know every time you look at one of their

1813
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:00,380
pages in the top corner or underneath

1814
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:02,210
there are their emails it says invest

1815
01:07:06,370 --> 01:07:04,490
now that they're trying to get investors

1816
01:07:07,930 --> 01:07:06,380
and you know he's he's a piece of you

1817
01:07:10,660 --> 01:07:07,940
out of it he's you know he's the name

1818
01:07:13,540 --> 01:07:10,670
and he's his names on the financial

1819
01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:13,550
documents too so I think yeah he

1820
01:07:18,010 --> 01:07:16,250
probably does believe but he he probably

1821
01:07:19,870 --> 01:07:18,020
also wants to make it a financial

1822
01:07:22,900 --> 01:07:19,880
success as well because it's is this

1823
01:07:24,970 --> 01:07:22,910
company but I don't think I don't think

1824
01:07:27,940 --> 01:07:24,980
there's some kind of secret CIA plot to

1825
01:07:30,490 --> 01:07:27,950
trick people into looking at UFOs using

1826
01:07:32,950 --> 01:07:30,500
Tom DeLonge I think that's just him

1827
01:07:35,620 --> 01:07:32,960
eyeing a bit of a UFO Fanning do you

1828
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:35,630
like an actual mission but I think that

1829
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:37,370
you get I mean obviously you saw he was

1830
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:38,930
talking to Podesta in those emails right

1831
01:07:44,320 --> 01:07:41,930
yeah yeah sure you know Podesta's a UFO

1832
01:07:46,060 --> 01:07:44,330
fan what's been Harry Reid is the UFO

1833
01:07:48,310 --> 01:07:46,070
fan there's lots of UFO fans like

1834
01:07:50,860 --> 01:07:48,320
there's probably like a good chunk of

1835
01:07:52,210 --> 01:07:50,870
people in Congress were people who loved

1836
01:07:53,980 --> 01:07:52,220
reading science fiction when they were

1837
01:07:56,500 --> 01:07:53,990
young and think that UFOs would be a

1838
01:07:57,910 --> 01:07:56,510
great thing and you know like people you

1839
01:07:59,620 --> 01:07:57,920
and I we grew up and we were really

1840
01:08:02,140 --> 01:07:59,630
interested in like the UFOs and the

1841
01:08:03,100 --> 01:08:02,150
paranormal and stuff like that and lots

1842
01:08:05,470 --> 01:08:03,110
and lots of people were really

1843
01:08:08,230 --> 01:08:05,480
interested in UFOs and the paranormal

1844
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:08,240
and so you get congressmen who were

1845
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:10,010
interested in UFOs and even the

1846
01:08:16,030 --> 01:08:14,450
paranormal well I would say this man at

1847
01:08:17,950 --> 01:08:16,040
least with UFOs there's enough

1848
01:08:20,350 --> 01:08:17,960
documentation and there's enough I mean

1849
01:08:21,790 --> 01:08:20,360
we talked about Blue Book etc all these

1850
01:08:23,290 --> 01:08:21,800
other things where you can get into

1851
01:08:26,800 --> 01:08:23,300
government documents when we talk about

1852
01:08:29,350 --> 01:08:26,810
you know Bigfoot believers or Loch Ness

1853
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:29,360
monster or ghosts you don't see that in

1854
01:08:33,790 --> 01:08:31,010
government document you do see some

1855
01:08:36,790 --> 01:08:33,800
stuff on mind-control obviously and the

1856
01:08:40,570 --> 01:08:36,800
ideas of telepathy on certain levels I I

1857
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:40,580
did a video and I wish I could remember

1858
01:08:45,580 --> 01:08:42,410
exactly what the document was but it's a

1859
01:08:47,020 --> 01:08:45,590
really interesting document that was one

1860
01:08:49,210 --> 01:08:47,030
of these experimentations that was

1861
01:08:51,460 --> 01:08:49,220
basically saying that your your mind was

1862
01:08:53,650 --> 01:08:51,470
creating the reality around you mm-hmm

1863
01:08:55,270 --> 01:08:53,660
I'm not sure I forget which one was but

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I find that I found that

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01:08:59,740 --> 01:08:57,890
fascinating at the same time it wasn't a

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camera crew running around an old

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01:09:04,330 --> 01:09:01,580
abandoned house with people with you

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01:09:06,310 --> 01:09:04,340
know GoPros making stuff up you know

1869
01:09:08,440 --> 01:09:06,320
it's a controlled environment they're

1870
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:08,450
actually looking at this phenomena it's

1871
01:09:12,010 --> 01:09:09,890
interesting to me that they would even

1872
01:09:14,050 --> 01:09:12,020
look at the phenomena let alone the

1873
01:09:16,510 --> 01:09:14,060
results right yeah but you know again

1874
01:09:18,460 --> 01:09:16,520
it's interesting stuff it's interesting

1875
01:09:20,140 --> 01:09:18,470
stuff so people look at it because it's

1876
01:09:22,750 --> 01:09:20,150
entertaining and yeah that's why you got

1877
01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:22,760
so many shows on TV about this stuff

1878
01:09:27,460 --> 01:09:25,250
well I'm yeah I try and believe me I

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01:09:31,000 --> 01:09:27,470
can't even watch most of TV I barely get

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01:09:33,400 --> 01:09:31,010
through anything but III would say that

1881
01:09:35,200 --> 01:09:33,410
the UFO phenomenon is much different

1882
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:35,210
than those other paranormal things I

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01:09:38,830 --> 01:09:37,370
think there's a very legit reality

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01:09:41,290 --> 01:09:38,840
behind it I don't think it's

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01:09:43,060 --> 01:09:41,300
extraterrestrial in nature I'm not

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01:09:45,910 --> 01:09:43,070
discounting the possibility that

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01:09:49,270 --> 01:09:45,920
extraterrestrials exist somewhere but

1888
01:09:51,370 --> 01:09:49,280
you know the more I don't know I guess

1889
01:09:53,560 --> 01:09:51,380
fantastic stuff that you know we're

1890
01:09:54,850 --> 01:09:53,570
working with the grays and the Pelagians

1891
01:09:57,700 --> 01:09:54,860
and they're in the center of the earth

1892
01:10:00,040 --> 01:09:57,710
and you know all that other stuff that

1893
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:00,050
is science fiction to me that's a read

1894
01:10:04,060 --> 01:10:01,850
you know like I forget who was the one

1895
01:10:05,590 --> 01:10:04,070
who there was the guy Phil Schneider who

1896
01:10:07,180 --> 01:10:05,600
told the story that he was in an

1897
01:10:10,450 --> 01:10:07,190
underground base and a shootout with

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01:10:12,190 --> 01:10:10,460
aliens and had this huge scar and to me

1899
01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:12,200
one of the most off-putting things about

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01:10:16,390 --> 01:10:13,970
what David Icke has done in the past is

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01:10:17,950 --> 01:10:16,400
the Annunaki stuff you know obviously

1902
01:10:20,260 --> 01:10:17,960
the shape-shifting lizard thing that

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01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:20,270
took I mean I couldn't go anywhere ten

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01:10:25,330 --> 01:10:23,330
years ago you know without being asked

1905
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:25,340
my opinion on lizard people and this

1906
01:10:29,350 --> 01:10:27,290
stuff and I got a I roll my eyes but at

1907
01:10:32,230 --> 01:10:29,360
the same time ike is one of the few

1908
01:10:35,170 --> 01:10:32,240
people that stayed consistently had time

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01:10:38,920 --> 01:10:35,180
for this movement so I've got to at

1910
01:10:40,840 --> 01:10:38,930
least give them that you know and it's a

1911
01:10:43,570 --> 01:10:40,850
distraction there isn't it like it maybe

1912
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:43,580
I cast some good points on some things

1913
01:10:49,210 --> 01:10:46,370
but it's got so much crazy going on that

1914
01:10:51,970 --> 01:10:49,220
that yeah it's not take him seriously

1915
01:10:54,250 --> 01:10:51,980
and that's what I try to do is like get

1916
01:10:55,750 --> 01:10:54,260
rid of the crazy stuff and some people

1917
01:10:56,890 --> 01:10:55,760
can't focus on the good points I mean I

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01:10:59,500 --> 01:10:56,900
certainly don't agree with everything

1919
01:11:02,530 --> 01:10:59,510
that you say but I do agree with some

1920
01:11:04,210 --> 01:11:02,540
things that you say yeah and you know I

1921
01:11:06,340 --> 01:11:04,220
know that we've already gone over an

1922
01:11:07,960 --> 01:11:06,350
hour but and we should do this on my

1923
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:07,970
platform too and that we should actually

1924
01:11:11,620 --> 01:11:09,290
do a

1925
01:11:13,390 --> 01:11:11,630
a debate on 911 where it's control we

1926
01:11:15,700 --> 01:11:13,400
both get you know the certain amount of

1927
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:15,710
time I'm looking forward to that but I'd

1928
01:11:18,760 --> 01:11:17,690
love to get your take especially since

1929
01:11:20,500 --> 01:11:18,770
you know I've been covering this for

1930
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:20,510
like ten years now and all the

1931
01:11:25,990 --> 01:11:23,090
revelations on the Epstein thing you

1932
01:11:27,850 --> 01:11:26,000
know just overall you know one of the

1933
01:11:29,890 --> 01:11:27,860
possibilities he killed himself were the

1934
01:11:31,870 --> 01:11:29,900
possibilities he didn't would you ever

1935
01:11:33,280 --> 01:11:31,880
even entertain with somebody who was a

1936
01:11:35,500 --> 01:11:33,290
billionaire but he could have been

1937
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:35,510
extracted intelligence ties

1938
01:11:41,470 --> 01:11:38,690
give me your synopsis I think he

1939
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:41,480
probably killed himself I think there's

1940
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:42,890
a possibility that he was kind of

1941
01:11:46,270 --> 01:11:44,810
allowed to kill himself like he wasn't

1942
01:11:47,380 --> 01:11:46,280
given the suicide watch that he was

1943
01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:47,390
needed and that might have been

1944
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:48,770
something that might have come down from

1945
01:11:53,860 --> 01:11:51,410
above but I think it's also possible

1946
01:11:55,510 --> 01:11:53,870
that that didn't happen it was just

1947
01:11:57,430 --> 01:11:55,520
essentially incompetence on the prison

1948
01:12:00,240 --> 01:11:57,440
system and especially that one prison he

1949
01:12:03,820 --> 01:12:00,250
was in that was very very understaffed

1950
01:12:05,200 --> 01:12:03,830
you know he had janitors doing like

1951
01:12:07,420 --> 01:12:05,210
checking on the prisoners prisoners and

1952
01:12:09,250 --> 01:12:07,430
things like that and you know people

1953
01:12:12,490 --> 01:12:09,260
people like point out evidence like the

1954
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:12,500
hyoid bone broken his neck that if you

1955
01:12:16,450 --> 01:12:14,570
do the real research on that then you

1956
01:12:20,200 --> 01:12:16,460
find that it does actually break a lot

1957
01:12:21,580 --> 01:12:20,210
of the time in hangings especially in

1958
01:12:23,440 --> 01:12:21,590
older people because it gets more

1959
01:12:25,300 --> 01:12:23,450
brittle with age if it's much less

1960
01:12:27,850 --> 01:12:25,310
common with younger people so the

1961
01:12:28,450 --> 01:12:27,860
evidence of murder I think is very very

1962
01:12:31,660 --> 01:12:28,460
flimsy

1963
01:12:34,750 --> 01:12:31,670
yeah the perhaps the evidence this he

1964
01:12:37,090 --> 01:12:34,760
was allowed to kill himself is a little

1965
01:12:40,090 --> 01:12:37,100
bit stronger but I wouldn't call it

1966
01:12:42,940 --> 01:12:40,100
conclusive but I think obviously he has

1967
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:42,950
a lot of a lot of ties to very powerful

1968
01:12:47,740 --> 01:12:45,050
people you know going all the way up to

1969
01:12:50,260 --> 01:12:47,750
the Clintons and Prince Andrew he's got

1970
01:12:53,110 --> 01:12:50,270
at least you know them being on his

1971
01:12:55,780 --> 01:12:53,120
plane and things like that but so

1972
01:12:58,630 --> 01:12:55,790
there's obviously a lot of possibilities

1973
01:13:00,070 --> 01:12:58,640
out there well I'm glad you at least

1974
01:13:01,930 --> 01:13:00,080
think there's some possibilities there

1975
01:13:04,510 --> 01:13:01,940
because to me you know this is one of

1976
01:13:06,250 --> 01:13:04,520
those really important stories where you

1977
01:13:08,710 --> 01:13:06,260
know I want to find out if Acosta was

1978
01:13:10,630 --> 01:13:08,720
told that he was intelligence and that

1979
01:13:13,630 --> 01:13:10,640
he had to leave it alone you know I want

1980
01:13:16,210 --> 01:13:13,640
to know why went ported to the FBI back

1981
01:13:18,070 --> 01:13:16,220
in 2002 nothing was done you know Maria

1982
01:13:20,590 --> 01:13:18,080
farmer you know her allegations are true

1983
01:13:22,600 --> 01:13:20,600
they found those documents you know I

1984
01:13:22,900 --> 01:13:22,610
just had Whitney Webb on my show and we

1985
01:13:24,220 --> 01:13:22,910
were

1986
01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:24,230
talking about yet another instant

1987
01:13:28,780 --> 01:13:26,210
instance where he and Wexner were

1988
01:13:31,720 --> 01:13:28,790
involved in the offshoot of Air America

1989
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:31,730
the CIA plane a southern I think

1990
01:13:36,970 --> 01:13:34,970
southern air trap not trap transport

1991
01:13:38,530 --> 01:13:36,980
Southern Air Transport and a scandal

1992
01:13:41,050 --> 01:13:38,540
there you know there was a lot of hands

1993
01:13:43,450 --> 01:13:41,060
off on this guy what we publicly know he

1994
01:13:45,460 --> 01:13:43,460
did is absolutely a poor abhorrent and

1995
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:45,470
you know III was one of those guys that

1996
01:13:50,740 --> 01:13:48,170
laid off the intelligence until Vicky

1997
01:13:52,180 --> 01:13:50,750
ward you know brought it brought it up

1998
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:52,190
just because there wasn't anything

1999
01:13:55,870 --> 01:13:54,530
really conclusive but Vicky Ward being a

2000
01:13:57,490 --> 01:13:55,880
journalist that was trying to break this

2001
01:13:59,590 --> 01:13:57,500
before anybody else did have some

2002
01:14:01,240 --> 01:13:59,600
credence right and what I also found was

2003
01:14:02,980 --> 01:14:01,250
really interesting is before Adnan

2004
01:14:05,550 --> 01:14:02,990
Khashoggi 's name came up

2005
01:14:08,500 --> 01:14:05,560
I had actually done a separate video on

2006
01:14:10,990 --> 01:14:08,510
Khashoggi specifically to kind of show

2007
01:14:12,580 --> 01:14:11,000
his role in the international

2008
01:14:14,260 --> 01:14:12,590
intelligence network that pulled off

2009
01:14:17,590 --> 01:14:14,270
iran-contra because I thought that was

2010
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:17,600
really important and for her to say that

2011
01:14:23,440 --> 01:14:21,290
he was one of Khashoggi clients working

2012
01:14:25,570 --> 01:14:23,450
for Khashoggi in that period of the

2013
01:14:28,210 --> 01:14:25,580
early 80s you know when he was brokering

2014
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:28,220
at least five of these arms deals during

2015
01:14:32,170 --> 01:14:30,650
iran-contra is extremely suspect a lot

2016
01:14:34,000 --> 01:14:32,180
of people don't talk about how Prince

2017
01:14:36,310 --> 01:14:34,010
Andrew is the UK's arm dealer you know

2018
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:36,320
he's the one I think bills was Saudi

2019
01:14:39,970 --> 01:14:37,850
Arabia I was gonna bring out of edge

2020
01:14:41,950 --> 01:14:39,980
because you know reading about Prince

2021
01:14:44,650 --> 01:14:41,960
Andrew I think it was in the the cable

2022
01:14:46,860 --> 01:14:44,660
leaks a while back

2023
01:14:49,030 --> 01:14:46,870
there was a bunch of diplomatic cables

2024
01:14:51,190 --> 01:14:49,040
kind of relating stuff that Prince

2025
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:51,200
Andrew had said and Prince Andrew just

2026
01:14:54,850 --> 01:14:52,850
comes across as this this kind of

2027
01:14:56,590 --> 01:14:54,860
arrogant [\h__\h] power broker type of

2028
01:15:00,040 --> 01:14:56,600
person who's using his position to

2029
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:00,050
further his own his own agenda or

2030
01:15:04,090 --> 01:15:02,810
whatever he's doing so yeah based on

2031
01:15:05,230 --> 01:15:04,100
that there was no fan of Prince Andrew

2032
01:15:06,910 --> 01:15:05,240
and he's kind of interesting like

2033
01:15:08,500 --> 01:15:06,920
hearing about other connections you know

2034
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:08,510
like I say there's definitely corruption

2035
01:15:13,750 --> 01:15:11,810
in the world and powerful people tend to

2036
01:15:15,100 --> 01:15:13,760
be more powerfully corrupted not saying

2037
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:15,110
they're all corrupted and I wouldn't you

2038
01:15:19,270 --> 01:15:17,090
know go as far as saying like everybody

2039
01:15:22,390 --> 01:15:19,280
who is a billionaire has to be corrupt

2040
01:15:25,900 --> 01:15:22,400
but there's there's a lot of stuff out

2041
01:15:28,240 --> 01:15:25,910
there I don't know man it's tough for me

2042
01:15:32,440 --> 01:15:28,250
because you see people that are you know

2043
01:15:34,540 --> 01:15:32,450
I very very rarely see people that are

2044
01:15:36,430 --> 01:15:34,550
super successful that don't at least

2045
01:15:39,729 --> 01:15:36,440
have some sociopathic tender

2046
01:15:41,200 --> 01:15:39,739
and and with that you know they overlook

2047
01:15:42,610 --> 01:15:41,210
people I mean even Trump that's another

2048
01:15:44,350 --> 01:15:42,620
thing no one ever talks about think

2049
01:15:46,720 --> 01:15:44,360
about how many people he screwed over in

2050
01:15:49,300 --> 01:15:46,730
those business deals and construction

2051
01:15:51,310 --> 01:15:49,310
companies during the 80s and 90s with

2052
01:15:52,780 --> 01:15:51,320
those bankruptcies so you know it's

2053
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:52,790
something that's not talked about much

2054
01:15:56,620 --> 01:15:54,770
it needs to be talked about more but

2055
01:15:58,300 --> 01:15:56,630
again I don't think that the left has

2056
01:15:59,740 --> 01:15:58,310
come at him legitimately you know we

2057
01:16:01,870 --> 01:15:59,750
talked probably about a half a dozen

2058
01:16:03,370 --> 01:16:01,880
things that I thought were legitimate

2059
01:16:06,160 --> 01:16:03,380
problems with that presidency and

2060
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:06,170
they're not even whispered about mm-hmm

2061
01:16:14,830 --> 01:16:12,970
huge huge topics that we could talk

2062
01:16:16,060 --> 01:16:14,840
about for hours on any light little

2063
01:16:17,979 --> 01:16:16,070
small detail of these things and it's

2064
01:16:20,110 --> 01:16:17,989
been good to get your perspective on it

2065
01:16:22,330 --> 01:16:20,120
and I want to thank you very much for

2066
01:16:24,430 --> 01:16:22,340
being here and you know let's talk again

2067
01:16:27,370 --> 01:16:24,440
and maybe do a deeper dive into some

2068
01:16:29,979 --> 01:16:27,380
stuff like 9/11 so I can't you can

2069
01:16:32,050 --> 01:16:29,989
forward to it Mick and I'm gonna get to

2070
01:16:33,910 --> 01:16:32,060
my three to seven videos a day over at

2071
01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:33,920
youtube.com slash info warrior if you

2072
01:16:38,350 --> 01:16:35,449
guys want to subscribe and it's on a

2073
01:16:40,060 --> 01:16:38,360
various amount of subjects and I'm doing

2074
01:16:42,100 --> 01:16:40,070
it my own way and you're welcome to

2075
01:16:43,750 --> 01:16:42,110
disagree with me and as long as you're

2076
01:16:45,220 --> 01:16:43,760
respectfully disagreeing with those in

2077
01:16:47,979 --> 01:16:45,230
the in the comments section myself I'm

2078
01:16:51,620 --> 01:16:47,989
always open to other opinions all right

2079
01:16:53,020 --> 01:16:51,630
yeah sounds good and me too

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[Music]

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alright see ya all right Thank You Mick